[tomder55]

Where did the reports of his condition come from ? What doctor violated HIPPA ?
He left Walter Reed 3 days after admission. How sick could he have been? Either that or the therapeutic cocktail is very effective as advertised. His doctor confirmed that he oxygen level dropped 2 points . Whether that is significant I can't say.

[Wondergirl]

Where did the reports of his condition come from ? What doctor violated HIPPA ?
He left Walter Reed 3 days after admission. How sick could he have been? Either that or the therapeutic cocktail is very effective as advertised. His doctor confirmed that he oxygen level dropped 2 points . Whether that is significant I can't say.

It's HIPAA, not HIPPA. There were all sorts of reports coming out of the WH when he got sick. And if he was admitted to Walter Reed HOSPITAL, that alone says a lot about how bad it was. His oxygen level had dropped far more than two points. Two is nothing. He was hooked up to an oxygen tank already in the WH. He was one sick puppy!

[jlisenbe]

It's HIPAA, not HIPPA. There were all sorts of reports coming out of the WH when he got sick. And if he was admitted to Walter Reed HOSPITAL, that alone says a lot about how bad it was. His oxygen level had dropped far more than two points. Two is nothing. He was hooked up to an oxygen tank already in the WH. He was one sick puppy!

Uhm...you need some documentation or you have nothing more than opinion. His doc said his O2 level dropped two points. You claim to know more than his doc. There are "all sorts of reports" coming out now that JB is mentally diminished. Do you accept those?

[Wondergirl]

There are "all sorts of reports" coming out now that JB is mentally diminished. Do you accept those?

Yes. I watch him. I listen to him. Some of it is because of his longtime stuttering problem, but some of it is because of his advanced age. Although...my 92 y/o uncle in-law could mop up the floor with him. One positive: Biden IS still quite handsome!

[tomder55]

Thanks for the acronym correction But the question remains. What doctor or provider in Walter Reed violated the disclosure provisions of the HIPAA law ? "all sorts of reports " doesn't cut it . Not when his own doctor disputes it , What do we know ? He was admitted to Walter Reed and spent a few days there. He was given therapeutics and then was released. Everything else is speculation .

What we also know is that TRump had a full campaign schedule before and after while Clueless lounged in his basement while the compliant press ran cover for him ;and a cabal rigged the election for him according to Slime Magazine

The Secret Bipartisan Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election | Time

[jlisenbe]

One positive: Biden IS still quite handsome!

Can you document that?

Kidding.

[Wondergirl]

Thanks for the acronym correction But the question remains. What doctor or provider in Walter Reed violated the disclosure provisions of the HIPAA law ?

WH aides et al. were quite forthcoming back then, partly because of fear. It was common knowledge that Trump was getting oxygen while still at the WH. If he was so hunky-dory healthy, why bother hauling him over to Walter Reed? I guess I should put on my librarian hat and dig out reports from back then.

[jlisenbe]

Is it ok if I don’t hold my breath???

[jlisenbe]

Kidding…again.

[Wondergirl]

Is it ok if I don’t hold my breath???

Sure. Breathe deeply. Covid germs are everywhere, though.

[tomder55]

I'll save you the trouble . It was in Mark Meadows book. Trump has denied it and no one else has corraborated Meadows account .

[Wondergirl]

I'll save you the trouble . It was in Mark Meadows book. Trump has denied it and no one else has corraborated Meadows account .

Nope. That's the thing very visible in your rearview mirror right now. There were reports from WH aides et al. back when Trump got sick with covid. Which news source will you accept as a link?

[tomder55]

I don't accept any news that quotes an "anonymous source" like a WH Aide or "unnamed people familiar with his condition." or an unnamed person “close to the president” as the Slimes reported at the time . I quoted Meadows because he put his name to the story. Trump's doctor, Sean Conley told reporters at a news conference that Trump's blood oxygen levels had dropped, but he never said they went into the 80s.

[Wondergirl]

Trump's doctor, Sean Conley told reporters at a news conference that Trump's blood oxygen levels had dropped, but he never said they went into the 80s.

If Trump was hauled off to a hospital, his oxygen level was of great concern. Below 90. Trust me -- been there.

[jlisenbe]

I guess I should put on my librarian hat and dig out reports from back then.

We eagerly await your results. You'll need to do a lot better than, "Below 90. Trust me -- been there." Also bear in mind that an article from "Redbook" is not going to do much for your cause.

This could all be easily resolved. No one disagrees with you that Trump was sick, and sick enough to be in the hospital for three nights. It's your claim that he nearly died that is in dispute. You could simply admit you overstated the case and the argument would be done. I would encourage you to do so.

[Wondergirl]

As I asked hours ago, "Which news source will you accept as a link?" Y'all are so picky.

[jlisenbe]

Already been answered by Tom. "I don't accept any news that quotes an "anonymous source" like a WH Aide or "unnamed people familiar with his condition." or an unnamed person “close to the president” as the Slimes reported at the time . I quoted Meadows because he put his name to the story. Trump's doctor, Sean Conley told reporters at a news conference that Trump's blood oxygen levels had dropped, but he never said they went into the 80s."

Seems pretty clear to me.

[Wondergirl]

We eagerly await your results.

But my results have to fit within your narrow borders. I get it.

"...but he never said they went into the 80s." And he can't say, because of HIPAA, that it was in the 80s or low 90s. If Trump was being fed oxygen while still at the WH, AND taken to the hospital, his oxy sat was dangerously low.

[jlisenbe]

narrow borders.

Yeah. Truth is funny that way. Anyone accustomed to wearing a "librarian hat" should already know that. Yes?

[tomder55]

According to Meadows ,Trump was

"sitting up in bed in his T-shirt, and it didn't look like he was going anywhere.""It was the first time I had seen him in anything other than a golf shirt or a suit jacket," Meadows wrote, adding that Trump acted like it was any other day and tried to work."The red streaks in the president's eyes hadn't gone away, and his hair was a mess from the hours he'd spent getting Regeneron in bed," he wrote. Meadows said he had arranged for four doses of the monoclonal antibody drug to be sent to the White House in secret and got approval from the FDA for the President to receive the treatment Trump initially resisted being taken to the hospital but relented when Meadows told him that "it's better that you walk out of here today under your own strength, your own power, than for me to have to carry you out on a gurney in two days."
When he went to walk to the helicopter that would transport him to Walter Reed, Trump could not hold a briefcase, the weight of which was" too much for him," according to Meadows.
"He looked at me, almost surprised he had to put it down. 'I'm sorry,' he said. 'I-I just can't carry that out there,'" Meadows wrote.

Trump's blood oxygen levels were at a 'dangerously low level' during 2020 Covid-19 diagnosis, ex-chief of staff says - CNNPolitics

Meadows is the only eyewitness report I trust so far because no one else has come forth by name to dispute it except Trump himself who disputes Meadows' contention that he tested positive before the debate . No where does he suggest that Trump was hooked up to oxygen before going to Walter Reed . He walked out of the WH in a weakened state and had a 3 days stay in the hospital. The 25th amendment was not invoked as it would've been had he been in the state you suggest .

Trump tried to work through his illness. Clueless was afforded the luxury of having days off ;and sometimes up to a week off before , between ,and after public events during the campaign because he had the cover of the compliant press and the cabal of election riggers .