[talaniman]

Transmitting disease is quite common among humans.

[tomder55]

covering up the source of a pandemic delaying a global response is criminal

[talaniman]

I think the minute China shutdown provinces and built extra hospitals I would have paid attention, and screw the rhetoric. We're a long way away from proving anything or having the international structure of the WHO no matter what story they blow smoke at.

[paraclete]

Yes much smoke there and dog whistles here, but the reaction tells us a lot. The Chinese lost much face in Wuhan thus their reaction to not being believed

[talaniman]

They lost much face everywhere, if they had any to begin with.

[tomder55]

Quid's request for an Intel assessment about the Wuhan lab leak theory has been completed and the verdict is .....INCONCLUSIVE

The intel community punted .

"All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident,"


"The IC judges they will be unable to provide a more definitive explanation for the origin of COVID-19 unless new information allows them to determine the specific pathway for initial natural contact with an animal or to determine that a laboratory in Wuhan was handling SARSCoV-2 or a close progenitor virus before COVID-19 emerged,"
Unclassified-Summary-of-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf (justthenews.com)

Given even that limited evaluation it is now clear that the compliant press and the big tech thought police were being completely irresponsible in their censorship of any thought that did not go along with their imposed narrative . Because Trump floated the idea of the lab leak ,it was summarily dismissed as debunked ,and a falsehood .

Honest debate was decapped only because of TDS .

[jlisenbe]

Honest debate was decapped only because of TDS .

Exactly correct. It is amazing how far the liberal dems will go in trying to shift blame off of Mr. Biden.

[tomder55]

Former VP of EcoHealth ;a company that did gain of function research at the Wuhan lab has confirmed what should be common knowledge by now ;that covid leaked from the Wuhan lab

https://www.lokmattimes.com/internat...velation-a475/

original source published Saturday
I worked with the Wuhan lab - I tried to warn them & I KNOW Covid was a lab leak | The Sun

His book is scheduled for release tomorrow and he has promised to post related documentary proof on line .

[tomder55]

Leading national security professionals sent a letter to the editors of prominent scientific journals and news organizations about their failure to investigate and their stifling debate on the origins of covid .


“Our security and prosperity depend on rigorous scientific debate, research, and scholarship, as well as an intrepid and independent news media. The responsibility of scientists and journalists alike is to ask hard questions and seek truth. By prematurely dismissing or stigmatizing certain questions—from the very outset of the pandemic— many prominent scientists and journalists failed in their duty.”

VandenbergCovidLetter.pdf (vandenbergcoalition.org)

The authors called on the compliant press “to carry out deeper investigations into the pandemic’s origins, particularly by examining all credible origins hypotheses.”

[jlisenbe]

I wouldn't suggest you hold your breath on either one of those.

[tomder55]

Covid did not come from bats in caves in China. That is now an established fact. SARS-CoV-2 never existed in the natural world .

'US Right to Know' obtained the smoking gun documents . You can read all 1417 pages of the exchanges they had and the docs themselves here

USGS-DEFUSE-2021-006245-Combined-Records_Redacted.pdf (usrtk.org)

or read their summary conclusions here

US scientists proposed making viruses with features of SARS-CoV-2 in Wuhan (usrtk.org)






Project DEFUSE was proposed to protect American service personnel overseas from bat viruses .

DEFUSE proposal - DocumentCloud

The documents obtained provide a recipe for assembling SARS-type viruses from six synthetic pieces of DNA .

Dr. rer. nat. Valentin Bruttel on X: "the DEFUSE draft documents show that, exactly as we had postulated, they planned to use 6 SEGMENTS to assemble synthetic viruses, to use unique endonuclease sites that do not disturb the coding sequence, and TO BUY BsmBI!!! (= NE Bio labs order # R0580S or R0580L) 25/x https://t.co/xZlnzeQBF2" / X (twitter.com)

Matt Ridley on X: "Game over. The latest revelations provide precise confirmation that all the many suspicious features of sars-cov-2 which imply it was man made were set out in exhaustive detail in the DEFUSE proposal to which Wuhan institute of virology was a partner." / X (twitter.com)


Here's the rub. DARPA turned down the DEFUSE proposal and yet the experiments went on.

Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research (theintercept.com)

EcoHealth had a secondary source of funding.

Guessing that Herr Doctor had something to do with the funding needed . He has recently said that the lab leak theory was no longer a "conspiracy theory "

After millions killed worldwide, I guess we owe him a thank you for the admission .

Lab Leak Is Not a Conspiracy Theory, Anthony Fauci Concedes (yahoo.com)

[tomder55]

Who knew there were science deniers at Science Mag ?

They used a hit piece against NIH 's decision to bring some lab work back home instead of funding foreign science to make this denial .

NIH’s sweeping foreign funding reform comes in the wake of intense congressional scrutiny of a grant to the U.S.-based nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance, which had a subaward to China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). Some suspect the COVID-19 pandemic was touched off when SARS-CoV-2 leaked from WIV, and President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans have gone further and suggested NIH funding to WIV might have helped create the virus. NIH’s parent, the Department of Health and Human Services, last year barred EcoHealth from federal funding for 5 years, and it went out of business in April.No compelling evidence supports the allegation that the virus leaked from WIV, says Keusch, who strongly supported EcoHealth, and he stresses that collaborations with foreign research is not simply a charitable contribution. “We are investing in knowledge generation that has relevance to our own society,” says Keusch, an infectious disease specialist. “You can’t simply do it within borders. That’s not the way knowledge generation works.”

‘This is insane:’ New NIH policy on funding foreign scientists stirs outrage | Science | AAAS

As noted above ;Dr Andrew Huff was a VP at EcoHealth Alliance . He confirmed the lab US role in the lab leak and gain of function research that was being funded .