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    #141

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Love for the World Pushes Out Love for the Father
    The Father's Son said love God and each other.
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    #142

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:04 PM
    From your own article. "The precise cause of gender transition is unknown." So much for your "broken chromosomes". The rest of the article puts out an unsupported idea that DES "might" be responsible for TG.

    Is that really all you have? Really? Your second link is to a long-winded, largely meaningless "debate" that I'd bet you have not bothered to read yourself. Thankfully, it did allow me to vote "yes" that LGBT is morally wrong. Thanks for giving me that opportunity. Sadly, it provided nothing for your weird idea.

    "Broken chromosomes" is still an unsupported idea fit only for non-science people like WG.

    "Love not the world nor the things of the world."
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    #143

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You are not able to spoon feed anyone.
    Open up, JL! Here comes the spoonful of facts and information about science you never studied or taught.
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    #144

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:07 PM
    Do you practice what you preach, Jl? I think not.

    When will you post what shows your fraudulent nature?
    Actually, I do practice what I preach. Here is your deceitful post again, still waiting for an explanation. I am happy to give you that chance.

    It's very simple. In the first quote, Jesus is speaking in the present tense of his time on earth. He did not come then for judgement but rather for salvation. The second speaks of the coming day of judgement when He will judge.

    In a gross truncation of a quote which reminds me of your Aquinas debacle, you intentionally misrepresented what He said. The entire quote very nicely answers your question. It is startling that you did not, I suppose, bother to read it for yourself.

    "47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. (present tense JL)

    48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. (future tense JL)"
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    #145

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    "Broken chromosomes" is still an unsupported idea fit only for non-science people like WG.
    Once a cherry picker always a cherry picker. I figured you wouldn't understand it or even try to.
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    #146

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:08 PM
    Open up, JL! Here comes the spoonful of facts and information about science you never studied or taught.
    I'm afraid a spoonful is all you are capable of. Regardless, if you are going to post links, then post a quote from the links to show that it actually has content worth reading. Your first three were all losers.

    Did you ever discover what "truth" is?

    I would suggest you drop the "cherry picking" references. Honestly, it makes you appear to be completely stupid and desperate for something to say. You plainly don't even know what it means or how to illustrate it. I don't think you're stupid and it bothers me for you to present yourself in that manner.
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    #147

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:11 PM
    I'm not sure what your getting at? We are all sinners. We are all rotten to the core!
    Does it make a difference if you're a woman in a man's body?
    Now, getting a sex change isn't what Jesus was talking about, when he talks about "Being Born again."
    Get out of 'Self" and be born-again. Love your "Friends", support them but don't try and promote wrong behavior???
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    #148

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'm afraid a spoonful is all you are capable of. Regardless, if you are going to post links, then post a quote from the links to show that it actually has content worth reading. Your first three were all losers.
    But why? You don't read quotes.
    I would suggest you drop the "cherry picking" references. Honestly, it makes you appear to be completely stupid and desperate for something to say. You plainly don't even know what it means or how to illustrate it. I don't think you're stupid and it bothers me for you to present yourself in that manner.
    It's exactly what you do: cherry pick. You post only the parts that prove your point, even if you have to omit important words and phrases -- as you do with things I say.

    Quote Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Does it make a difference if you're a woman in a man's body?
    I wish you could be born again as the male you are (but only on the outside) and with every part of your soul, mind, brain screaming, "I'm female!"
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    #149

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:23 PM
    important words
    Word! Bird is the Word.

    I wish you could be born again as the male you are (but only on the outside) and with every part of your soul, mind, brain screaming "I'm female!"
    Yes, either way, We must learn to master it.
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    #150

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Yes, We must learn to master it.
    You can't. Dysphoria becomes the norm.
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    #151

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:27 PM
    You can't
    Sin becomes the norm. Become born again and you will experience the transformative power of the Holy spirit.
    A person is not required to do anything other than Believe in Jesus. God will do the rest.
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    #152

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Sin becomes the norm. The Holy Spirit come in.
    It isn't sin. Is being left-handed a sin? Being born blind is a sin?
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    #153

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Actually, I do practice what I preach.
    No, Jl, you do not. You have a long history here of evading and dissembling. Not to speak of downright refusing to answer simple questions because they do not accord with your misunderstanding of the Bible.

    Unable to compete with your own words, you usually hide behind the words of an ancient book claiming the words were spoken by Jesus although you have not a scintilla of proof they were spoken by him, rather than written down several centuries after Jesus lived.

    This is a fact. A fact which you fraudulently claim as "proof" of not believing the Bible. When will you man up and admit the truth of this? I admire Waltero who has been honest on the issue of hell. You should imitate him.
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    #154

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:39 PM
    But why? You don't read quotes.
    I read your last three articles. There was nothing there to support your idea.

    It's exactly what you do: cherry pick. You post only the parts that prove your point, even if you have to omit important words and phrases -- as you do with things I say.
    It's exactly what you do: cherry pick. You post only the parts that prove your point, even if you have to omit important words and phrases -- as you do with things I say.
    That's not what cherry picking is.

    No, Jl, you do not. You have a long history here of evading and dissembling. Not to speak of downright refusing to answer simple questions because they do not accord with your misunderstanding of the Bible.

    Unable to compete with your own words, you usually hide behind the words of an ancient book claiming the words were spoken by Jesus although you have not a scintilla of proof they were spoken by him, rather than written down several centuries after Jesus lived.

    This is a fact. A fact which you fraudulently claim as "proof" of not believing the Bible. When will you man up and admit the truth of this? I admire Waltero who has been honest on the issue of hell. You should imitate him.
    Blah, blah, blah. You're done Athos. You will not defend your own offense, and you cannot show mine. You're finished until you man up and do it.

    As to what I "hide behind", I give you the words of Christ. If that's not good enough for you, then I can help you.
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    #155

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:40 PM
    You can't. Dysphoria becomes the norm.
    I understand. I'll but out. Your quick fix might not be the best option.
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    #156

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:42 PM
    Completely misrepresenting the message of the Bible is always a bad idea. Now she has Jesus with a homosexual lover. Unreal.
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    #157

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    I understand. I'll but out. Your quick fix might not be the best option.
    What's my quick fix? (P.S. there isn't one.)
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    #158

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:46 PM
    Now she has Jesus with a homosexual lover. Unreal.
    How does one respond to such a statement? Guess this is a good time for me to withdraw.
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    #159

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Completely misrepresenting the message of the Bible is always a bad idea. Now she has Jesus with a homosexual lover. Unreal.
    Why didn't he marry at 15-16 like Jewish males did back then?
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    #160

    Apr 29, 2021, 01:53 PM
    How does one respond to such a statement?
    Good question.

    Guess this is a good time for me to withdraw.
    I think that's a mistake.

    Why didn't he marry at 15-16 like Jewish males did back then?
    Has already been answered above.

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