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    #161

    Mar 31, 2021, 04:05 AM
    I understand that Biden is going to put a lot of thought into that very subject. He should be finished in ten or fifteen years.
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    #162

    Mar 31, 2021, 05:27 AM
    back when Trump announced it critics scoffed at the idea that any vaccine would be approved before the end of 2020 . VP Harris said it was being developed in a dangerous manner and suggested on the campaign trail that she would not take the vaccine . Also the reason Quid can brag about how many Americans have already been vaccinated is because Trump went ahead and contracted with the pharmaceutical companies to secure US supply of the vaccine well before they were approved . Over in Europe they did not take those steps . Now European nations fight amongst themselves for supply .They call it 'jab wars ' . They are looking at severe lockdowns this week . Paris hospitals are at capacity . The Germans basically rebelled when Merkel planned tough lockdowns for Easter . She has resigned after her party got pummeled in the elections Sunday .

    Here in the US restrictions are being lifted . Quid takes credit for what Trump achieved
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    #163

    Mar 31, 2021, 05:34 AM
    Quid takes credit for what Trump achieved
    Exactly correct, and a truth that is obvious to all but the TDS afflicted.
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    Mar 31, 2021, 04:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Exactly correct, and a truth that is obvious to all but the TDS afflicted.
    The Dufus Supporters. 8D
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    #165

    Mar 31, 2021, 04:57 PM
    It occurred to me today how to get all of these liberal dems to agree that the vaccine was developed during the Trump admin. If any negative side effects begin to show up in major numbers, they'll be all over it then as an opportunity to be critical.
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    #166

    Mar 31, 2021, 05:18 PM
    There are already reasons to be critical of various vaccines
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    Mar 31, 2021, 06:11 PM
    The ones here seem to be relatively uneventful so far.
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    #168

    Mar 31, 2021, 08:12 PM
    I heard some criticism of the J&J product recently
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    Apr 1, 2021, 04:19 AM
    not the vaccine The problem @ J&J was a human screw up. About 15 million doses in a Baltimore plant were mixed up . Doses from Netherland are being used. But the Baltimore doses were destroyed and that will delay April delivery . Emergent BioSolutions is the company that screwed the doses and this is not the 1st time their quality control has been an issue. They have been cited in the past by the FDA for poorly trained employees, cracked vials and mold around one of its facilities . J&J linked up with them last year to subcontract the manufacture of the vaccine. This is a big set back for the schedule of the vaccine that J&J projected . But they will still make their delivery goals ....a month later than scheduled .


    Clearly Quid knew about the problem a month ago . Yet the problem did not n make the news until recently . Quid cancelled a visit to the Emergent plant the beginning of March . Now we know why. When asked why Quid cancelled Jen Psaki told the press “We just felt [the White House] was a more appropriate place to have the meeting” .So much for transparency .

    Emergent was also the focus of controversy when it was revealed that for about a decade ,the priority of the national strategic reserve was purchasing anti-terrorism anthrax vaccine that was produced by Emergent. That left other covid related stockpiles low at the critical beginning of the pandemic. The government paid Emergent $626 million for the vaccines. That was close to half the budget for getting emergency stock piles . This was apparently due to Emergent telling the emperor's regime in 2016 that it needed more government $$$ to stay in business. So the government purchases $100 million more vaccine even though the reserve already had enough to vaccinate more than 10 million people. The anthrax vaccine has a shelf life of a couple of years . So most of the purchase over the last decade was trashed.
    Keep in mind that the threat of anthrax attack so far has cost 5 American lives 20 years ago .
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    #170

    Apr 2, 2021, 09:53 AM
    President Harris/Biden just doing a hunky-dory job with immigration. Setting records!!

    CBP projects 184,000 migrant children will cross border in fiscal year 2021. It would be the highest number of unaccompanied children on record.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cbp...border-fy-2021
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    #171

    Apr 2, 2021, 11:48 AM
    Have you seen that they took over the San Diego Convention Center and are putting up hundreds of these children ? 82 of them already arrived at the Convention Center with covid . And they are being taught in person by teachers at the cost of $6,500 per child per day . San Diego teachers were given a choice .They could continue to teach their San Diego students virtually OR they could do in person teaching of the illegals at the Convention Center .
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    #172

    Apr 2, 2021, 12:01 PM
    From https://news.yahoo.com/san-diego-tea...133759170.html

    The educational program will include English language development and social-emotional learning opportunities,” the statement adds. “The teachers who are participating in the program are doing so voluntarily, and the program is following a COVID-19 screening protocol based on guidelines from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”
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    Apr 2, 2021, 12:30 PM
    Yes . I already said they were given a choice .That doesn't explain the tax payer footing the bill ;and why should the illegals be given in person instruction when the children or San Diego are to be taught in Zoom school for at least another 2 weeks ;and even then the system will only be a modified in person teaching ?

    Love the social distancing. There with 82 confirmed covid cases and more illegals arriving .

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    #174

    Apr 2, 2021, 12:47 PM
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    Yes . I already said they were given a choice .That doesn't explain the tax payer footing the bill ;and why should the illegals be given in person instruction
    Have you ever taught English to children from a foreign country, especially if you don't speak their language? I have. With Zoom, it would be nearly impossible.

    Those children are here now. What would YOU do with them if you were in charge of the situation?
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    #175

    Apr 2, 2021, 12:59 PM
    send them back . That is the only way to discourage this migration
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    #176

    Apr 2, 2021, 01:04 PM
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    send them back . That is the only way to discourage this migration
    Why not kill them? That would be an ever better way to discourage migration.
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    #177

    Apr 2, 2021, 02:06 PM
    And they are being taught in person by teachers at the cost of $6,500 per child per day .
    That is about as stupid as anything I've heard of. 6500 a day is like spending 2K for an oil change. Just ridiculous.

    Why not kill them?
    For liberal dem supporters of abortion, that should sound perfectly reasonable.
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    #178

    Apr 2, 2021, 02:07 PM
    and this surge isn't an untenable humanitarian crisis ? Children are being killed crossing the Darien Gap .
    Unaccompanied children crossing the Darién Gap | Forced Migration Review (fmreview.org)

    Children are being thrown into the Rio Grande as a diversion by the cartels .
    Baby rescued at US-Mexico border in Texas, officials say | The Sacramento Bee (sacbee.com)

    Children are being abused ,raped ,forced to be drug mules .
    Mexico drug gangs using more children as "mules" - CBS News


    Families try crossing over and when they are denied ;they separate and send their children over the border with the promise to them they they will reunite later. because of the emperor's and SCOTUS positions on DACA
    Some migrants now sending their kids across the border alone so the kids won't be expelled, say lawyers (nbcnews.com)


    The tragedy is to continue to allow this to happen.
    They are being lied to being told that the promised land awaits them at the end of their journey . The inhumane encouragement should immediately end.
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    #179

    Apr 2, 2021, 02:22 PM
    Why not kill them? That would be an ever better way to discourage migration.
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    For liberal dem supporters of abortion, that should sound perfectly reasonable.
    That's what you're doing by sending them south. If they survive the walk back, they'll most likely die in their home countries.
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    #180

    Apr 2, 2021, 02:39 PM
    If they survive the walk back,
    I don't know how quid would do it But the US flies the deported back .ICE Air: How US deportation flights work - CNN

    The only people who are eligible for refugee status is Venezuelans. All the others claim or are attempting to be escaping poverty and that is not a criteria for refugee status.

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