[tomder55]

Glad you admit that fossil fuels need to be the primary source of energy in your state instead of building massive wind farms as a primary source of power .Wind power is nothing more than an expensive unsightly supplemental source ,and always will be .

Obviously you are right to put the blame on your Repub leaders .

[talaniman]

It's all hands on deck Tom, use what you got and have them ALL ready when needed. Freezing gas lines are unacceptable. Others in cold climate manage to do it, and shamefully so should Texas. Making it an ideological narrative is shameful. Political negligence is the blame.

It's not like this snuck up on us, it was predicted and known as is the coming of another winter storm. Both headed your way. That offer of trading governors still stands!

[jlisenbe]

It's amazing how the supporters of those who advocate for the Green New Deal and alternative energy sources have changed their tunes now that it's them sitting in the cold and dark. Hopefully this will be a wake up call so effective that even liberal dems can see the light.

[tomder55]

"It's all hands on deck " 100 % agree . Let the market decide

That offer of trading governors still stands!

Will be a moot point in a couple weeks . My Guv will be Henry McMaster .

NY pays some of the highest energy costs in the nation by refusing to either frack on one of the largest reserves in the nation ;and by banning pipeline construction. And it is totally il duce Cuomo's decision . Natural gas production in Pennsylvania has increased 60% since Cuomo's ban on fracking five years ago, adding $6 billion to Pennsylvania's GDP. They tap into the same shale field that is in NY State .
You say all hands on deck .il Duce is committed to carbon neutrality . What you are experiencing NY has had for years . Every storm produces 100s of thousands of NYers with disrupted services ;and presumably we are prepared for cold weather .
And we pay for it . New Yorkers pay about 40% more for electricity than Pennsylvanians and 15% more than in New Jersey. Upstate NY lives in a 1930s state of depression to this day. And that is where the Marcellus Formation is located . Much of upstate NY still relies on home oil heating that has to be trucked in ;and emits 40% more CO2 than natural gas .Even NYC is not getting new gas hookups because of the constraint of building new pipelines to service the homes and businesses . The idiot thinks the demand could be met by trucking natural gas in or bringing it into the city on large barges .
On top of that ; Indian Point nuke is being decommissioned . There are no plans to replace it with a new nuke . The energy it generated will be replaced by what ? natural gas ,solar and windmills on mountain tops . You can't make this up.

[jlisenbe]

My daughter and her husband live in Texas. They've been without power for 3 days now in sub freezing temps. They're going to a hotel in another town for tonight in hopes that maybe power will be back up tomorrow, but even at that will have to hope the pipes in their apartment complex are not frozen. It's hard to imagine how we got into such a stupid situation with this dependence on windmills.

[talaniman]

There is no dependence of windmills (renewables) in Texas, we don't have power because of the neglect of the main power producers. The failure to winterize was always a consideration since it has happened before and the rolling brownouts during the summer were a warning of neglecting the most basic preventive maintenance protocols akin to not checking and changing your car fluids in a reasonable time. Mother Nature has exposed the system weaknesses much like covid exposed the weakness of our society in being prepared for when stuff happens.

Whose job is it to prepare the Texas grid against stuff happening? Sure wasn't AOC or the green deal...or liberal dems! Whose left?

[jlisenbe]

Texas gets nearly 20% of its electricity from wind power and another smaller portion from solar. Those shut down at the very time demand went up in cold weather. Anyone willing to think clearly about it will see that the decision by the feds to pump wind and solar power was a bad one. Hopefully this nightmare will be the death knell of the dumbest idea to come along in ages which is the Green New Deal. Can you imagine what a disaster this would have been if Texas was getting 80% of its power from wind and solar? How great it would have been for AOC and her crowd to have been stuck in Texas these past few days. Perhaps she would have seen the light.

[talaniman]

Texas gets nearly 20% of its electricity from wind power and another smaller portion from solar. Those shut down at the very time demand went up in cold weather. Anyone willing to think clearly about it will see that the decision by the feds to pump wind and solar power was a bad one. Hopefully this nightmare will be the death knell of the dumbest idea to come along in ages which is the Green New Deal. Can you imagine what a disaster this would have been if Texas was getting 80% of its power from wind and solar? How great it would have been for AOC and her crowd to have been stuck in Texas these past few days. Perhaps she would have seen the light.

Maybe you'll see the light when you realize that Texas not AOC is responsible for the system failure. Texas made the decisions that made them vulnerable to this rare cold spell, not some idea by AOC. That's fringer talk by someone without facts, evidence, or the truth.

Explain why the gas lines froze, or the nuclear power had to shutdown because of the cold.

How and why a nuclear reactor shut down in Texas cold snap when energy was needed most (washingtonexaminer.com)

The cold is at fault here not the equipment, which nobody here thought to winterize like parts of the country that is accustomed to dealing with this cold events. Texas was told to winterize it's power transmission grid in 2011 after that rare cold event. They didn't. All of this information is available in the Internet.

[Athos]

Maybe you'll see the light when you realize that Texas not AOC is responsible for the system failure. Texas made the decisions that made them vulnerable to this rare cold spell, not some idea by AOC. That's fringer talk by someone without facts, evidence, or the truth.

Texas was told to winterize it's power transmission grid in 2011 after that rare cold event. They didn't. All of this information is available in the Internet.

It's frustrating when the truth is out there but some refuse to acknowledge it. Frustrating but typical for those who, having eyes, see not.

[tomder55]

Blaming the pols for not preparing the turbines to operate as they do in the Arctic is a bit of a stretch . For a cost of 5-10% base price for turbine you can heat them and put carbon fibers on the blades to prevent icing .Viola you are prepared for the one off event . Let me ask you ;do you blame the pols of Texas for not having a stock pile of salt readily available to prepare the roads for a one off snow event ? But because the highways were not properly prepped there was a 133 car pile up that cost at least 6 lives .

Here in NY 10s to 100,s of thousands lose power frequently in winter storms or when the wind blows too hard . Why ? Because transmission lines are on polls following the roads . Now that is preventable at a cost . Transmission lines could be buried . But the pols and the taxpayers are not prepared to take on the added cost

Texas as j pointed out is over reliant on renewables ;which is the more costly alternative . Texas pols of both parties have bought into the climate change hysteria .So a state with some of the biggest reserves of carbon based energy freezes because of climate political correctness.

[jlisenbe]

Texas was told to winterize it's power transmission grid in 2011 after that rare cold event. They didn't. All of this information is available in the Internet.



It's frustrating when the truth is out there but some refuse to acknowledge it. Frustrating but typical for those who, having eyes, see not.

As usual, it's the mysterious "out there somewhere" internet material.

[paraclete]

can't imagine what it must be like to live above the arctic circle but wait you live above the tropic of cancer. The global warming (brrr) thing is certainly a northern hemisphere thing

[jlisenbe]

Not according to this.

"Australia's climate has warmed, on average, by 1.44 degrees since 1910. Last year was the hottest year on record, with the greatest number of record-breaking hot days: 33 days that exceeded 39 degrees, compared with a total of 24 days between 1960 and 2018"

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/c...12-p56dyl.html

[Athos]

can't imagine what it must be like to live above the arctic circle but wait you live above the tropic of cancer. The global warming (brrr) thing is certainly a northern hemisphere thing

(PS - You haven't explained why you think I'm an atheist. But that's ok - I forgive you).

[talaniman]

Blaming the pols for not preparing the turbines to operate as they do in the Arctic is a bit of a stretch . For a cost of 5-10% base price for turbine you can heat them and put carbon fibers on the blades to prevent icing .Viola you are prepared for the one off event . Let me ask you ;do you blame the pols of Texas for not having a stock pile of salt readily available to prepare the roads for a one off snow event ? But because the highways were not properly prepped there was a 133 car pile up that cost at least 6 lives .

They got rid of a Chicago mayor for not plowing the streets during a blizzard so anything is possible, but I doubt Abbott gets booted for not insulating the pipes or having his state prepared for a decade weather event. This is my third such event since I've been here and I still don't have boots! As you say for the costs of winterizing it would have made this a non event, just as a pile of salt would have saved a lot of suffering but they don't use salt here just sand and they have plenty.

Amid the freeze little is being done to treat Austin's roads (statesman.com)

They tell everyone to stay home, and even as another storm approaches, they forecast 60 degrees for Sunday. So for as dire this is now it will be over soon. Texans understand they are on their own in this type of weather, but no excuse for not being prepared for the worst while hoping for the best Tom. Blaming it on AOC and a dependence on renewables was my main point. That's just nowhere near the truth, and that's loony!

Here in NY 10s to 100,s of thousands lose power frequently in winter storms or when the wind blows too hard . Why ? Because transmission lines are on polls following the roads . Now that is preventable at a cost . Transmission lines could be buried . But the pols and the taxpayers are not prepared to take on the added cost

I grew up in the frigid north, stuff happens no matter the preparations but Texas has the cheapest energy cost in America and the only state with an exclusive grid. We supply other states but cannot meet the high demand the storms caused with half a supply

Texas produces more power than any other state. Here's why it went dark anyway - CNN

That means that when things are running smoothly, Texas can't export excess power to neighboring states. And in the current crisis, it can't import power either.

Pay me NOW, or pay me later!

Texas as j pointed out is over reliant on renewables ;which is the more costly alternative . Texas pols of both parties have bought into the climate change hysteria .So a state with some of the biggest reserves of carbon based energy freezes because of climate political correctness.

I've already shown that's fringer no nothing loony talk!

[Athos]

Blaming it on AOC and a dependence on renewables was my main point. That's just nowhere near the truth, and that's loony!

A great line is worth repeating!

[jlisenbe]

I don't think anyone has blamed this particular event on AOC. We have blamed her for her support of the GND, which is stupidity on steroids.

[talaniman]

I don't think anyone has blamed this particular event on AOC. We have blamed her for her support of the GND, which is stupidity on steroids.

Only to the technically challenged, or unimaginative among us, but like it or not it's definitely the future, how far is unknown but car companies are sure eliminating gas cars slowly but surely. So it's not that far fetched and no bills have been written yet.

untitled (house.gov)

Which part do you disagree with and why?

[tomder55]

but car companies are sure eliminating gas cars slowly but surely.

good plan . you can't supply your homes with energy but you plan on electrifying the whole auto fleet Brilliant

[paraclete]

Not according to this.

"Australia's climate has warmed, on average, by 1.44 degrees since 1910. Last year was the hottest year on record, with the greatest number of record-breaking hot days: 33 days that exceeded 39 degrees, compared with a total of 24 days between 1960 and 2018"

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/c...12-p56dyl.html

strange that I live here and I can only remember cold events last year, the only really hot weather was at the start of the year when there were fires, 2020 was a wet year so I don't know where they get these temperature readings from, next to air conditioning units and in the middle of cities. Even the so called heat waves were non events compared to some years I remember. Once again you have drunk the koolaid

(PS - You haven't explained why you think I'm an atheist. But that's ok - I forgive you).

I think you are an atheist because of your anti christian views