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    #141

    Dec 8, 2020, 01:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You did not answer the question. That is very common for you, but I'll step up and answer yours anyway.
    Always the nasty comment.... *sigh*
    It does change things when it becomes personnel.
    At least I can spell. (Am returning the "compliment")

    The federal government isn't taking any care toward its citizens and the environment in how it's using the eminent domain power. Private property, state lands, wildlife preserves -- all are fodder for Trump's gristmill he calls a wall.

    From https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2020...-and-wildlife/ --
    The project is part of the administration’s ongoing effort to install at least 450 miles of new and replacement barrier along the 2,000-mile southern border before Trump leaves office, much of it on protected public lands. The result, according to Indigenous communities and environmental advocates, has been ecological and cultural destruction on a shocking scale. “This new construction has bulldozed a huge amount of desert habitat, blasted rugged mountains, destroyed cultural sites,” says Laiken Jordahl, a campaigner with the Center for Biological Diversity. “It’s absolutely devastating.”
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    #142

    Dec 8, 2020, 02:01 PM
    Always the nasty comment.... *sigh*
    Truth can kind of sting, can't it? You have, in fact, still not answered it. Sigh. You see a potential trap coming that will not work for your argument, so you just avoid it. Yep. It's pretty lame.

    The federal government isn't taking any care toward its citizens and the environment in how it's using the eminent domain power. Private property, state lands, wildlife preserves -- all are fodder for Trump's gristmill he calls a wall.
    I know. It's terrible if Trump does it. TDS on display.

    ecological and cultural destruction on a shocking scale.
    This is according to indigenous communities and environmental whackos? Go figure.
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    #143

    Dec 8, 2020, 04:43 PM
    Says the hardcore right wing wacko. Pot? Kettle? Makes no difference...pick one!
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    #144

    Dec 8, 2020, 06:04 PM
    more like a camp oven eh?
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    #145

    Dec 8, 2020, 07:20 PM
    Says the hardcore right wing wacko.
    What did I say that you disagreed with? Ever notice how often you leave out the essential?
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    #146

    Dec 9, 2020, 10:43 AM
    You know what I disagree with...why you playing? Pick any post, doesn't matter especially you're response to this one,

    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    So it's okay for the government to take your land and money to build a wall, but feeding and sheltering the least is out of the question?
    You got proof you're NOT a wacko?
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    #147

    Dec 9, 2020, 11:08 AM
    You know what I disagree with...why you playing? Pick any post, doesn't matter especially you're response to this one,
    In other words, you don't have the slightest idea. As to feeding and sheltering the least, when you are actually doing something yourself, then get back with us. OR when you are ready to call for an increase in YOUR taxes, then you will sound like something more substantial than the bleating of sheep.
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    #148

    Dec 9, 2020, 01:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    In other words, you don't have the slightest idea. As to feeding and sheltering the least, when you are actually doing something yourself, then get back with us. OR when you are ready to call for an increase in YOUR taxes, then you will sound like something more substantial than the bleating of sheep.
    That's all you got? You do know when the dufus finally leaves you have to leave with him because despite the best efforts we don't seem to be able to separate your head from the dufus's a$$.

    How'd you get so far up there anyway?
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    #149

    Dec 9, 2020, 01:54 PM
    I'm very concerned about this strange fascination you have with other men's rear ends. How long have you had these strange fantasies? Strikes me as kind of sick, but at any rate it's not my deal at all, so I'll leave that to you. I guess I'd think you might want to keep that obsession more of a secret, but you can barely make it a month or two without wanting to talk about it. Have you seen professional help about these fantasies??? Do you go to websites to see these images you seem to love so much? Certainly is nothing to be proud of. Very sad.

    As to the rest, if you ever want to impress anyone with your concern for the poor, then get your own money involved in it. Until then, it's just hot air. It means nothing.
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    #150

    Dec 9, 2020, 03:23 PM
    No guy I'm worried about where your head is stuck at.
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    #151

    Dec 9, 2020, 03:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'm very concerned about this strange fascination you have with other men's rear ends. How long have you had these strange fantasies? Strikes me as kind of sick, but at any rate it's not my deal at all, so I'll leave that to you. I guess I'd think you might want to keep that obsession more of a secret, but you can barely make it a month or two without wanting to talk about it. Have you seen professional help about these fantasies??? Do you go to websites to see these images you seem to love so much? Certainly is nothing to be proud of. Very sad.

    As to the rest, if you ever want to impress anyone with your concern for the poor, then get your own money involved in it. Until then, it's just hot air. It means nothing.
    obviously never heard of don't ask, don't tell which masked such a fascination for years and as to the hot air that means nothing, it would all go away if you would just shut up
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    #152

    Dec 9, 2020, 04:14 PM
    Tal, it's fine. It does seem to be either a sick humor or a sick fantasy life with you since you are the only person, literally, I have ever met in my entire life that loves to talk about it so much, or talk about it at all for that matter. It has never occurred to me in 67 years to ask another man (or woman) such a sick question, and it's really a strange, strange affair you have. Nonetheless, I do know that God loves you a great deal, so it is not for me to be harsh with you. It's puzzling, but it's your strange problem to deal with, so rant away. It means nothing.

    it would all go away if you would just shut up
    I'm sure it would. You could all sit around and pat yourselves on the back for being so noble in your feelings about the poor that you are perfectly willing to force others to give them money. But you can forget that. Someone on this board has to point out your fake charity, and I guess it's me, so get used to it. I know it irritates you to have it pointed out, but that's your problem.
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    #153

    Dec 9, 2020, 04:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'm sure it would. You could all sit around and pat yourselves on the back for being so noble in your feelings about the poor that you are perfectly willing to force others to give them money. But you can forget that. Someone on this board has to point out your fake charity, and I guess it's me, so get used to it. I know it irritates you to have it pointed out, but that's your problem.
    You have absolutely NO idea what any of us here give for charity and how we help others, financially and otherwise, who need a boost. Please stop saying we "force others to give them money."
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    #154

    Dec 9, 2020, 04:49 PM
    You have absolutely NO idea what any of us here give for charity and how we help others, financially and otherwise, who need a boost. Please stop saying we "force others to give them money."
    If you will stop doing it, then I'll stop saying it. It's a core belief of liberal dems and of the Harris/Biden ticket to raise taxes on the wealthy so you can "take care" of the poor by making the wealthy pay their "fair share", a notion that has been shown to be foolishly fake here many times. I know none of you have ever voted to raise your own taxes, or at least you can't name the time you did if that was the case. There is one person on this board who has flatly stated he does not want his own taxes raised. I do give you somewhat of a pass. You do at least seem to take a personal (I listened to your correction!) interest in the poor, but you insist on voting for the fake charity of raising taxes on others but not yourself.
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    #155

    Dec 9, 2020, 05:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If you will stop doing it, then I'll stop saying it.
    Doing what?
    I know none of you have ever voted to raise your own taxes, or at least you can't name the time you did if that was the case.
    I have mentioned it (posts 95 and 126) and did vote that way on November 3.
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    #156

    Dec 9, 2020, 05:43 PM
    Doing what?
    What you said.

    You have never mentioned any specific instance where you voted to raise your own taxes. Vague references will get you nowhere.
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    #157

    Dec 9, 2020, 05:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You have never mentioned any specific instance where you voted to raise your own taxes. Vague references will get you nowhere.
    Post #95 wasn't specific enough for you?
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    #158

    Dec 9, 2020, 06:39 PM
    A simple date??? Hardly.
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    #159

    Dec 9, 2020, 08:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    A simple date??? Hardly.
    Along with #126?

    (Clue from post #126: Which would raise my taxes, a flat tax or a graduated tax?)
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    #160

    Dec 9, 2020, 08:20 PM
    Fraid not, and not even when you count post 1 to post 159. The point is voting to raise your own taxes. You have not given any specifics on that.

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