[talaniman]

Any governing system is subject to fail because of the humans that administer it. Don't blame the tool, blame the humans that use it.

[jlisenbe]

Any governing system is subject to fail because of the humans that administer it. Don't blame the tool, blame the humans that use it.

Are you suggesting that the type of government or economy a nation has makes no difference?

[paraclete]

Are you suggesting that the type of government or economy a nation has makes no difference?

It doesn't stop failure. Even the most democratic of nations have failed in various ways, few totalitarian governments last, empires fail

[Athos]

Unbridled socialism is bad ................ but also unbridled capitalism is bad too

If you're changing the subject to UNBRIDLED socialism/capitalism, you'll get no argument from me. Would have saved time for you to have said that in the first place.

Socialism falls down because its programs must be supported with taxation or large scale borrowings

ALL programs are supported by taxation or large-scale borrowings. In fact, without taxation/borrowing, no programs are possible.

[paraclete]

You are a strange fellow, unable to see any point of view but your own

[jlisenbe]

In fact, without taxation/borrowing, no programs are possible.

It's laughable to suggest that programs are not possible without borrowing. Yet another false claim that encourages the runaway borrowing we are staring in the face.

[jlisenbe]

Whatever you do, don't ask that famous democrat, AOC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aer3mvlLVZw

Simple description of capitalism. An economic system in which large or small business owners, unfettered by excessive government regulations, profit from benefitting the lives of others. If a business does not benefit the lives of others, then their products will stop selling and they go out of business.

[Athos]

You are a strange fellow, unable to see any point of view but your own

Feel free to tell me what point of view I have been unable to see. Seeing is not always believing, but I'll be happy to read what you have to say.

[talaniman]

Whatever you do, don't ask that famous democrat, AOC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aer3mvlLVZw

Simple description of capitalism. An economic system in which large or small business owners, unfettered by excessive government regulations, profit from benefitting the lives of others. If a business does not benefit the lives of others, then their products will stop selling and they go out of business.

We probably disagree on what's excessive, but I sure don't buy whole hog what a CEO is marketing.

[jlisenbe]

We probably disagree on what's excessive.

Generally speaking, if a business is making excessive profits, then another business will come in with lower price. Happens all the time. Just check out Walmart and see for yourself.

[talaniman]

I specifically mentioned excessive as in government regulations and not profits or the business model.

[jlisenbe]

I specifically mentioned excessive as in government regulations

No, you didn't. You simply said, "We probably disagree on what's excessive." You were far from specific.

[talaniman]

You started this with excessive government regulation so why go off the rails about my response?

[jlisenbe]

It's all good. I was not aware I had gone "off the rails" in any way.

[talaniman]

I know, but that's what friends are for. 8D

[paraclete]

It's all good. I was not aware I had gone "off the rails" in any way.

Oh you run on a different track, that's certain

[jlisenbe]

Oh you run on a different track, that's certain

I sincerely hope so.

[talaniman]

As long as you stay in your lane it's all good.

[paraclete]

but he doesn't, does he?

[talaniman]

That's why I honk my horn! 8D