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    Jun 8, 2020, 05:56 PM
    Athos, take your meds and go to bed. You've gone off the rails.
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    Jun 8, 2020, 05:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I do hope to use your post above for my Christian youth group presentation
    As a PK and long-time Sunday school and adult Bible class teacher, I cannot begin to imagine how you would weave Athos' response into a Christian youth group presentation without sounding like a crybaby.
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:09 PM
    I cannot begin to imagine how you would weave Athos' response into a Christian youth group presentation without sounding like a crybaby.
    Yes, I'm sure you can't.
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Athos, take your meds and go to bed. You've gone off the rails.
    Hahahaha - Thank you for revealing your nastiness again. It's reassuring.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yes, I'm sure you can't.
    Running off with tail between legs?
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:18 PM
    Running off with tail between legs?
    Actually, I was agreeing with her. I'm sure she cannot imagine how to use such a resource. After all, she said she couldn't. It is priceless material. Please keep the spring flowing!!
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Actually, I was agreeing with her. I'm sure she cannot imagine how to use such a resource. After all, she said she couldn't. It is priceless material. Please keep the spring flowing!!
    And you can't read and comprehend. What I don't understand is how YOU could weave Athos' response into a Christian youth presentation without sounding like a crybaby. "Wah, wah, that mean man was bullying me again last night on a discussion board." I'm sure those youth have a lot more on the ball than you give them credit for. They'll still be snickering as they leave that presentation.
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:27 PM
    What I don't understand is how YOU could weave Athos' response into a Christian youth presentation without sounding like a crybaby.
    Can't you see that I'm agreeing with you? You don't understand, but I do, so relax. Material like that is priceless.
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yes indeed. You don't understand. But I do, so relax. Material like that is priceless.
    Reading comprehension is a learned skill. Please work on it.
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:30 PM
    So are thinking and using imagination. Work on them.
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    #290

    Jun 8, 2020, 06:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Material like that is priceless.
    If you really want priceless material, try picking up a Bible and reading the Gospels. You might learn something, which you can present to your youth group.
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    Jun 8, 2020, 06:33 PM
    Thank you for the advice. I'm going through the NT for about the fiftieth time right now. I'll soon be to Matthew 25, the passage you do not believe.

    And your advice above is more priceless material. You who don't accept the Bible as authoritative is advising someone to read it. Keep it up!!
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    #292

    Jun 8, 2020, 07:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You who don't accept the Bible as authoritative...
    What does that mean to you, accepting the Bible as authoritative?
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    Jun 8, 2020, 09:51 PM
    It means it takes precedence over other opinions;

    Is there a God, the Bible says there is
    Does Jesus exist, the Bible says he does
    Is man flawed and in need of redemption, the Bible insists this is so
    Is redemption available through belief in Jesus, the Bible says it is

    These and many other answers are found in the authoritative text of the Bible
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    #294

    Jun 9, 2020, 04:40 AM
    Very good answer.
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    #295

    Jun 9, 2020, 05:32 AM
    I think it's perfectly fine for true believers to consider their religious books as authoritative. It's just as fine if they do not as well.
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    #296

    Jun 9, 2020, 06:00 AM
    You can't have it both ways Tal
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    Jun 9, 2020, 06:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    These and many other answers are found in the authoritative text of the Bible
    What exactly is the "authoritative text"?
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    Jun 9, 2020, 06:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    You can't have it both ways Tal
    Why not? Who decides which way and to what degree they decide how authoritative their religious book is?

    Or how one practices their faith in general?
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    Jun 9, 2020, 06:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Why not? Who decides which way and to what degree they decide how authoritative their religious book is?

    Or how one practices their faith in general?
    All excellent questions. I'm interested in what is the authoritative text. You mentioned it, too. I'm sure for paraclete it's the Bible, but I'm interested in which edition/version/language etc., etc. etc.
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    Jun 9, 2020, 06:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Why not? Who decides which way and to what degree they decide how authoritative their religious book is?

    Or how one practices their faith in general?
    Here is the one authoritative text you should take notice of; Jesus said "noone comes to the father but through me", that means all the other books don't have the same authority

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