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    #21

    Apr 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
    You're a liar, Tom
    FactCheck.org® A Project of The Annenberg Public Policy Center

    https://www.factcheck.org/


    Media Matters for America is a Soros Open Society construct .

    http://archive.discoverthenetworks.o...ry.asp?id=1237

    If only you would do your own research instead of relying on left wing propaganda media .
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    Apr 19, 2020, 05:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    FactCheck.org® A Project of The Annenberg Public Policy Center

    https://www.factcheck.org/


    There are dozens that have no affiliation with Soros. But that begs the question.

    I note that you don't challenge the content, you just slam the Soros connection. That's a form of the logical fallacy called ad hominem.


    If only you would do your own research instead of relying on left wing propaganda media .
    I note that you have relied on right-wing propaganda media. My reliance is media that is dedicated to the truth.

    How do I know this?

    Here's one way;
    I watch a video of Trump (live TV or the net). Then I check to see how that performance is described on media. The Fox far-right Trump outlet consistently slants the performance or omits points critical of Trump. Sometimes there are outright lies on the opinion shows (Hannity, Ingraham, and that dopey "Judge"). I also check OAN occasionally. It's just as bad as Fox.

    The other media that you and Trump call "Fake news" and propaganda then describes the Trump performance and it is always accurate and sometimes slanted (but never slanted to the degree on Fox). I won't list the media because it's generally all other media in the USA and abroad.
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    Apr 20, 2020, 04:10 AM
    Well said Athos, but it's a normal thing for right wing conservative media to blast the liberal news. They have always complained of not having enough conservative news and there is a good reason for that, it's FAKE, and rejected by the public as a whole. One reason is liberal news has only to play the tape of the dufus and his sycophants lying as he feeds red meat to his base.

    Now his sycophants are taking to the streets with the dufus chearleading them. That's disgusting, and delusional.
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    Apr 20, 2020, 05:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    Now his sycophants are taking to the streets with the dufus chearleading them. That's disgusting, and delussional.
    Yes it is the President should be above such behaviour, but then this is a race to the bottom
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    Apr 20, 2020, 09:19 AM
    No masks, no social distancing, just hollering.
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    Apr 21, 2020, 10:13 AM
    when Dems protest no one cares how close they get to each other ;or that no one is wearing masks .

    https://www.bisnow.com/washington-dc...uarters-103282

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    Apr 21, 2020, 10:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    when Dems protest no one cares how close they get to each other ;or that no one is wearing masks .

    https://www.bisnow.com/washington-dc...uarters-103282

    The article is headed by the date, March 5, 2020. Social distancing didn't begin until later.
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    Apr 21, 2020, 02:54 PM
    wtg NY !!!
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-bla...ium=SocialFlow
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    #29

    Apr 21, 2020, 07:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    That link showing the animals clogging up a hot line with revolting comments and Hitler references is hardly worthy of a WTG NY!!!

    That tells us a lot about you, Tom.
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    #30

    Apr 22, 2020, 05:18 AM
    Tom's never been a Blaso fan, nor has he been a right wing loony either, at least not lock stock and barrel, but we are seeing the loonies come out more as this virus rages on. We all know the dufus and his sycophantic base are behind this and we have seen this play before many times. Holler loud enough and make it seem like it's more than it really is.

    Of course I have no evidence, but do suspect this is a small group exercising keyboard courage in a very crass way. Hey loonies need attention too.
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    #31

    Apr 22, 2020, 06:16 AM
    this was going to a police link I'm sure NYPD was howling with delight and amusement . A nice distraction from their having to chase down the scum Blas let out of prison

    It is defiance to Sandinista Bill's Orwellian call for NYers to snitch . Nothing more or less.
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    #32

    Apr 22, 2020, 07:10 AM
    I'm sure you would gladly exchange blaso for the mayor of Vegas who said open the casinos and figure the rest out later.
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    Apr 22, 2020, 11:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I'm sure you would gladly exchange blaso for the mayor of Vegas who said open the casinos and figure the rest out later.
    Money rules even in the middle of a plague, I hear Trump likes the way we handled the crisis, can't figure out why, it is the opposite of what he has done
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    #34

    Apr 23, 2020, 03:46 AM
    Could it be the call for investigations into the WHO?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN22401K

    Meanwhile, the main street bailout for small businesses was scarfed up by rich guys who are preferrd customers of the big banks.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/b...ronavirus.html

    So now those small mom and pop businesses still need money.
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    #35

    Apr 23, 2020, 05:42 AM
    Yes strange the way things turn out over there, seems the little guy doesn't need any money
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    #36

    Apr 23, 2020, 07:58 AM
    Leave it to conservatives to make the rich richer and forget the poorer.
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    Apr 23, 2020, 08:38 PM
    But history books will say: In April of 2020, when the pandemic had already claimed 35,000 lives, the President of the United States incited people to storm their statehouses with AR-15s and AK-47s.
    I'm going to go way out on a limb and speculate that there will never be such a crazy entry in a history book since Trump has never suggested such a ridiculous thing. He has not called for an insurrection in Virginia or any other state. He has not asked for people to "storm their statehouses". He has not asked people to open carry AK-47s. Suggesting that people exercise their Constitutional right to peaceably assemble (which seems to be what they did, unlike what the dems did in Ferguson) is hardly a new statement for a president.

    forget the poorer.
    You've already said you don't want your taxes raised to support the poor. Other than voting for people who agree to take money from people OTHER THAN YOU to give to the poor, what are you doing yourself?
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    #38

    Apr 24, 2020, 02:45 AM
    1. Ferguson was peaceful during the day, and the loonies came out at night, and just as you can defend the rights of one group, then at least defend the right to disagree with such protests, like the supremists in Charlotteville, and the good people on both sides comments.

    2. Have said no such thing, and have opined my position very well several times, so no need to twist my words. In truth you have voted for people to take your money for poor people too. As to what I'm doing for the poor that's easy, I vote for people who will help the poor, even if it means taking your money JL.
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    Apr 24, 2020, 05:08 AM
    1. Ferguson was peaceful during the day, and the loonies came out at night, and just as you can defend the rights of one group, then at least defend the right to disagree with such protests, like the supremists in Charlotteville, and the good people on both sides comments.
    So you think the people of Ferguson will be relieved to find out that the burning and looting merely occurred at night? Is that supposed to be comforting? As to your right to disagree with those protesters, I've never suggested otherwise. I will suggest, however, that calling peaceful protests an "insurrection" is lunacy.

    In truth you have voted for people to take your money for poor people too. As to what I'm doing for the poor that's easy, I vote for people who will help the poor, even if it means taking your money JL.
    Thank you for verifying what we already know. You can't be troubled to get off your rear end and help poor people with your own resources. Forcing other people to do what you are not willing to do yourself is the very essence of liberal democrat politics. It's on the level of a combat officer standing tall and saying, "Follow him!"
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    #40

    Apr 24, 2020, 01:25 PM
    1. You brought up Ferguson in your muddled comparison to repubs open it up protest now. Ferguson was years of pent up rage and frustration, while the repub protest small in scale was organized and allegedly funded by rich people to foment dissension among frustrated scared repubs. Many changes came from that for the better. More on that later.

    2. Easy preacher dude, poor people don't have resources and depend on help, and just because you are involved in church/charity work, don't even try thinking others never have. I force no one to do anything, and maybe it's just sour grapes that you get outvoted for the things that you peeve about. Don't blame me and stop assuming I've never worked with churches and charities. I ain't got no money, but I do have time and experience to love, guide, and support those that need it, and do!

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