[Wondergirl]

We have to stop the RACE BAITING!

Yes, especially the gerrymandering and telling indigenous people on reservations that they can't vote because their house doesn't have a number.

[jlisenbe]

No more than Moscow Mitch dedicating his efforts to making Obama a one termed president! He failed.

So you are admitting it was rigged. Fine. If you want to say both the House and the Senate arranged things to benefit themselves, then you might have a point.

The WB, Adan Schiff, the Biden's? None are relevant to the dufus actions, not even the WB who started this thing after the WB allegations were corborated by subsequent 13 plus witnesses. Same thing happened to HC remember during her 7 hearings in the House. Pretty common for the majority to make the rules isn't it?

OK. You're really saying that the WB was not relevant? His motives were not relevant? His past association with the dem party was not relevant? And the only thing that was corroborated was the fact that Trump had a phone call, the contents of which were made public, and their non-criminal nature made obvious, very early on.

Which hearings? Dems didn't even have the votes for inquiry until the Ukraine stuff came to light and that was 3 and a half years after the dufus was elected.

The hearings that resulted in articles of impeachment. It hasn't been 3.5 years since his election even today. That certainly was not true last summer.

[talaniman]

Not likely . The toad Nadler is already plotting his next vindictive act. He's had a blood feud with Trump going back decades . So he is not letting it go . And Schiff head has been so battered over the twin trashing he received from his Russia hoax and the Ukraine hoax that he will do anything to salvage himself . But I believe Madam Mim is smart enough to go and pout but not try something so stupid as impeachment again. Schiff deceived her into believing he had the goods on Trump because he never thought that Trump would release the transcript of his conversation with Zelensky. Once Trump did the game was up . Russia and Ukraine agreed to a cease fire . They came to a gas agreement too. What you missed it ? That is because y'all were obsessed with trying to drive Trump from office and weren't paying attention . Did you know that Zelensky and Putin had a summit ? Neither want Ukraine to be the battlefield that Democrats appear to want . There was multiple exchanges of prisoners including the Ukrainians taken off of ships .When was this happening ? When Madam Mim was holding on to the articles of Impeachment afraid to proceed with the process because she knew of the pending disaster that befell the Democrats this week

Oh come on we've been seeing these treaties summits and agreements for years that get trashed by Russia at a whim. That's why were in this mess. This is another one like the other ones so call me when the troops actually leave. I always liked your spin though Tom, especially about the dems and your favorite from the west coast. I do hope they get some peace in that region though but trusting a Russian without verification was something King Reagan preached never to do. I still believe in that.

What do you call an administration who has an enemies list and a TV station of hitmen (and women)? The dufus is publicly checking his list, and vowing to take no prisoners. Heck! He won and refuses to move on, and all you conservatives think it's the dems who won't get over it? We can't have a "CIVIL" war like that! You know good and darn well losers of a battle lick wounds and reload!

Yes, especially the gerrymandering and telling indigenous people on reservations that they can't vote because their house doesn't have a number.

You forget the purging of minorities that don't respond to their silly junk mail notices if indeed they actually send them out.

[jlisenbe]

You forget the purging of minorities that don't respond to their silly junk mail notices if indeed they actually send them out.

Of course the "junk mail" is only sent to minorities. If you have any real evidence of that, I'd love to see it. Sounds to me just like more senseless complaining.

[paraclete]

I think that says it all

[talaniman]

Of course the "junk mail" is only sent to minorities. If you have any real evidence of that, I'd love to see it. Sounds to me just like more senseless complaining.

I'll be happy to dismiss your research out of hand without seeing it too JL.

Pretty good Clete! He needs a dog to come home to kick!

[jlisenbe]

I'll be happy to dismiss your research out of hand without seeing it too JL.

I'm not the one making a senseless, baseless claim. That would be you. It's just another example of race-based fantasy with no truth whatsoever supporting it. The terrible thing is that many people believe that nonsense and it allows them to sit down and say, "There is no point in me disciplining myself since, after all, those nasty repubs are trying to take away my right to vote anyway." Providing people with excuses is a wicked undertaking.

[Vacuum7]

jlisenbe: Absolutely true: The ENTIRE LYNDON JOHNSON GREAT SOCIETY DEBACLE was aimed at re-enslaving the Negro race and setting them up to simply be WOMB TO TOMB Demo voting machine level pullers....they could have given one damn about the Negro people or any other people, for that matter: its all about DEMOS STAYING IN POWER AT ANY COSTS!

[talaniman]

Wonder if that was anything like Nixons southern strategy? I'll say it again, you repubs look like your constituents, and dems look like their constituents. Look for yourselves you don't have to take my word for it. That doesn't make either of you any more credible with race relations if you don't believe in it in the first place. ou just THINK you know what's on black persons mind but you don't have a clue so you talk and shut both ears instead of using your ears for a change.

Are you THAT threatened?

[jlisenbe]

Come on, Tal. You offer a lot of your opinion, and that's fine as far as it goes, but it does not compel others to believe you. At some point there has to be data to support your ideas. You say dems look like their constituents? Well, if you look at the dems running for pres, which ones look like lower income minorities? And you have look at that as low income AND minorities. How do you answer that? As to what's on the minds of black people, you seem to suppose that ALL black people think exactly alike and so you know what ALL black people think. Isn't that the very definition of prejudice? I'm happy to report that black people by the hundreds of thousands are beginning to break free from the bondage of having their thinking dictated to them by liberal dems and are beginning to think like free men and women in order to make their own choices. It's a wonderful thing to observe.

[talaniman]

The nominees are but a small group of the total which delivered HC 3 million more votes than the dufus, so spare me your prejudice that minorities are under control of dem libs when most are DEM LIBS too! Make sense? I suppose it would be wonderful to support conservative repubs in mass numbers then they would not have to resort to the tricks and traps to keep power.

But that's just my opinion and yours happens to be different.

Add interesting factoid

The 48 senators who voted to convict represent 12 million more people than the 52 that acquitted the dufus. STRANGE?

[jlisenbe]

minorities are under control of dem libs when most are DEM LIBS too!

You just don't see it, do you?

The 48 senators who voted to convict represent 12 million more people than the 52 that acquitted the dufus. STRANGE?

Yet again makes me glad that we're a republic.

Some more factoids. Trump approval rating, despite the all out offensive of the dems, is now 49%. At the same point in their presidencies, your dearly beloved Obama was 45%, Clinton 47%, and HW 46%. In the meantime, the approval rating for Congress is only 23%. Hmmm and hmmm.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/...ald-trump.aspx

[talaniman]

You're right, I don't see why you insist on wanting what you can't seem to earn. I suppose it's normal to gloat when things go your way, but we both know that can change again don't we?

[jlisenbe]

I don't see why you insist on wanting what you can't seem to earn.

What?

I suppose it's normal to gloat when things go your way, but we both know that can change again don't we?

I'm really not gloating. I've said it a million times that I am not a big supporter of Trump. I do appreciate what he has done with the economy, standing up for the unborn, and appointing fed judges who actually want to adhere to the Constitution. However, I despise these budget deficits and I don't care for his abusive speech, but he is a vast improvement, in my judgement, over Obama and a million years ahead of the loonies currently running for the dem nomination. Might add that I don't think a pres should be impeached just because he is unlikable.

[paraclete]

You're right, I don't see why you insist on wanting what you can't seem to earn. I suppose it's normal to gloat when things go your way, but we both know that can change again don't we?

Yes indeed I have had a few investments that have gone south

[talaniman]

What?

The words, actions, and behavior really turns minorities off, yet you insist on repeating the same stuff that keeps turning minorities off.

I'm really not gloating. I've said it a million times that I am not a big supporter of Trump. I do appreciate what he has done with the economy, standing up for the unborn, and appointing fed judges who actually want to adhere to the Constitution. However, I despise these budget deficits and I don't care for his abusive speech, but he is a vast improvement, in my judgement, over Obama and a million years ahead of the loonies currently running for the dem nomination. Might add that I don't think a pres should be impeached just because he is unlikable.

I guess you will just have to live with the fact that even though the dufus and repubs want credit for this economy, dems and minorities saw Obama build it during a crisis and with much opposition from you guys for 8 years. Repubs always giving rich guys money and blasting the poor and minorities doesn't help your case much either, and the conservative drive to discriminate, suppress, oppress minorities rights in the name of some moral imperative will never win them over.

Saying you're not a big supporter of the dufus falls on deaf ears here, because your own words say otherwise. You are thrilled with what he has done and others are not is the simple answer, and while he rides high on the tide as he ever has now, watch what he does next! After his fixed senate trial result, no doubt the pain and humiliation of his foes surely will follow, and indeed has started with his SOTU campaign rally, shake up of his advisors, and his sycophants targeting his campaign foes for him.

You may say your not a big supporter JL, but you have gone along with his bad words, and actions just the same, and will keep doing so, while trying to flip the script back to us, the dems, and of course Obama right?

[jlisenbe]

The words, actions, and behavior really turns minorities off, yet you insist on repeating the same stuff that keeps turning minorities off.

First of all, how would you possibly know what turns off all minorities? Secondly, perhaps it need to be said because it is true and it will help those who listen to it. Kind of a stunning revelation, isn't it?

As for the rest of your post, it's the same old tired mantra of how Obama, who could not produce a thriving economy in his eight years, is somehow responsible for what we have now. That's ridiculous. It's like a fired college coach claiming it was his hard work that enabled the next guy to win a national championship.

As to my support of Trump, unlike those of you who worshiped Obama and still cannot bring yourself to say even a single critical word about him. I am perfectly willing to be critical of Trump where he deserves it and have done so many times. Big difference. I have not gone along with his bad words. You need to stop making it up as you go along.

Flip the script back to Obama? Didn't you just do that in your post? That was you, wasn't it?

[talaniman]

First of all, how would you possibly know what turns off all minorities? Secondly, perhaps it need to be said because it is true and it will help those who listen to it. Kind of a stunning revelation, isn't it?

Kind of obvious since that's who they support, and have championed minority causes much more than repubs have and makes more sense than dems have a voodoo hold over them as you have eluded or that they cannot think for themselves and don't know what furthers their own interests. Plus dems don use the same tricks and traps minorities find onerous, admit publicly, and the rest of repubs go along with it like voter ID laws and then close their local DMV.

As for the rest of your post, it's the same old tired mantra of how Obama, who could not produce a thriving economy in his eight years, is somehow responsible for what we have now. That's ridiculous. It's like a fired college coach claiming it was his hard work that enabled the next guy to win a national championship.

It was growing and healthy and enabled the next president to benefits of a good economy no matter who won. That's a big deal and better than coming into a mess as Obama did, and the way the dufus lies out his orange butt that he did. Even you analogy is more than a bit bogus since college coach's don't get fired for winning, and who would believe a fired losing coach for claiming credit for another coaches success? That's a ridicules enough an analogy I've ever heard. Plus Obama wasn't fired, and is still respected for his years of service.

As to my support of Trump, unlike those of you who worshiped Obama and still cannot bring yourself to say even a single critical word about him. I am perfectly willing to be critical of Trump where he deserves it and have done so many times. Big difference. I have not gone along with his bad words. You need to stop making it up as you go along.

Just my opinion but that's pretty petty to want fans of the previous president to criticize him after he is gone. He was our hero, the dufus is yours, just live with it dude.

Flip the script back to Obama? Didn't you just do that in your post? That was you, wasn't it?

I flip nothing but you do all the time.

[jlisenbe]

Just my opinion but that's pretty petty to want fans of the previous president to criticize him after he is gone. He was our hero,

How about just wanting Obama supporters to cease their genuflecting and get honest over his presidency? You want to say his economy was "good". I would say he did an OK job aided by a doubling of the national debt. Now Trump took the economy Obama left and has it setting records. That is simply the truth. You hate Trump so you won't accept it.

voter ID laws and then close their local DMV.

Closing a DMV is only a problem if the state does not provide other means of ID. Mississippi has done that and I imagine most other states have done as well. But if you want to keep going down that tired old road, then explain to all of us why it is necessary to show ID to buy alcohol or tobacco, but not to vote. Is verifying age for alcohol more important than verifying name for voting???

who would believe a fired losing coach for claiming credit for another coaches success?

Isn't that what you're basically doing?

]I flip nothing

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP OBAMA, and then you accused me of "flipping the script" back to him. BUT YOU'RE THE ONE WHO DID IT, and in fact you just raised Obama's name again in this most recent post. If you don't want his name brought up, then police your own posts first before you start griping about mine.

[Wondergirl]

I am perfectly willing to be critical of Trump where he deserves it

How about at the Super Bowl party? His wife and youngest son Barron were on each side of him, respectfully standing with right hand on heart, and solemnly singing along to the National Anthem. tRump? Oh, he was pointing and gestulating like a crazy man, then started to play crazy orchestra conductor. Then not long after was the Prayer Breakfast.... Everybody should have walked out in disgust.

I've read he can't name any book in the Bible, and his favorite verse is "an eye for an eye" -- actually part of the Code of Hammurabi, which predated the Bible -- NOT a verse in the Bible but mentioned by Jesus in His Sermon on the Mount, "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:38–39)

You want to say [Obama's] economy was "good".

Obama took REPUBLICAN George W. Bush's economic disasters and turned them around. tRump is sailing on those breezes.