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jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 04:47 PM

LOL, are you kidding me? Paying taxes on half(?) their money, is a tribute to their power even if it is 85% of tax revenues collected. Nobody really knows the kind of money hidden offshore or even exempted from taxation. FACT remains most corporations don't pay taxes at all, and get money back from the IRS.

Do you have any documentation on any of that (especially the underlined part), or is that just what you think might be true? And you didn't answer the question. If it is OK for you to protest against paying more in taxes, why isn't it alright for them?

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 07:23 PM

Look it up and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think you have ever heard me complain about MY taxes going up, though I have complained about the dufus putting taxpayer dollars in his pocket when he visits his businesses. Big Biz has always complained about taxes and paying labor costs while they make profits up the butt.

That's why we can talk AFTER they have built roads, schools, bridges, and cleaned up their messes themselves. Fair enough? I mean you wanted single woman and lazy poor people to be held to account so you would think you would feel the same about Big Biz.

Am I wrong?

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 07:26 PM

Look it up and correct me if I'm wrong.

In other words, you have no documentation and have simply made it all up.

That's why we can talk AFTER they have built roads, schools, bridges, and cleaned up their messes themselves. Fair enough?

You mean you don't have roads, schools, and bridges in Texas??? No wonder you are complaining so much. Move over here. We already have all of those things.

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

In other words, you have no documentation and have simply made it all up.

Always want me to do your work for you huh. Not this time since I have already provided links from a previous conversation on the subject so that makes it your turn unless you admit to alzhiemers or something. That I could understand.

You mean you don't have roads, schools, and bridges in Texas??? No wonder you are complaining so much. Move over here. We already have all of those things.

Naw, but I'll compare your part of I20 to ours anytime, that goes for schools and bridges too. You know better than to mess with Texas.

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 07:41 PM

Always want me to do your work for you huh. Not this time since I have already provided links from a previous conversation on the subject so that makes it your turn unless you admit to alzhiemers or something. That I could understand.

Since you are the one who made the completely ridiculous statement, then it's up to you to back it up. If you don't understand that, then maybe you're the one dealing with Alzheimers.

Naw, but I'll compare your part of I20 to ours anytime, that goes for schools and bridges too. You know better than to mess with Texas.

So you do have schools, roads, and bridges? Then why did you say you didn't? Are you confused tonight? Mess with Texas? That made me laugh. No one is Mississippi is worried about what Texas does.

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 07:51 PM

Not this time since I have already provided links from a previous conversation on the subject so that makes it your turn unless you admit to alzhiemers or something.

Just trying to help guy, Ms could use the help.

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 07:56 PM

Not this time since I have already provided links from a previous conversation on the subject so that makes it your turn unless you admit to alzhiemers or something.

Then you should have no problem in locating them. At any rate, big biz and wealthy people are doing just what you and I do. They are trying to minimize what they have to pay in taxes. A flat tax would solve much of the problem.

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 07:58 PM

I've been hearing that for years JL, from your side.

paraclete · Dec 28, 2019, 09:12 PM

Ok Jl, taxes are levied on net profit, which is what is left over after expenses and various writeoffs, but if you wanted to have a fair system you would have to tax gross income with no deductions, this stops tax avoidance. So what do you consider a fair rate, 10% perhaps, remembering that whatever it is business will attempt to have others pay by increasing prices

talaniman · Dec 29, 2019, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Then you should have no problem in locating them. At any rate, big biz and wealthy people are doing just what you and I do. They are trying to minimize what they have to pay in taxes. A flat tax would solve much of the problem.

You and I don't have lawyers and accountants and lobbyist writing laws making deductions, or showing us tax shelters, and havens, nor the disposable income to buy elected officials favor and donate to their campaigns. Maybe you do but I don't. Is it even reasonable to expect rich guys to stop their loopholes, deductions, and tax shelters if they haven't so far under any taxing scheme? Where do you even get a congress that could make them?

jlisenbe · Dec 29, 2019, 06:34 AM

if you wanted to have a fair system you would have to tax gross income with no deductions, this stops tax avoidance.

It might be something to consider. For me, I wouldn't tax corporations at all. The best approach is to tax the dividends paid out by corporations.

You and I don't have lawyers and accountants and lobbyist writing laws making deductions, or showing us tax shelters, and havens, nor the disposable income to buy elected officials favor and donate to their campaigns. Maybe you do but I don't. Is it even reasonable to expect rich guys to stop their loopholes, deductions, and tax shelters if they haven't so far under any taxing scheme? Where do you even get a congress that could make them?

We use a CPA to do our taxes and I would suggest everyone do it. Costs a couple hundred bucks but well worth it. As to a flat tax, it could begin by the two of us agreeing it should happen, but you are too fearful it might cause your taxes to go up.

talaniman · Dec 29, 2019, 07:33 AM

If it feeds and educates poor kids, and builds, schools, roads, and bridges I have no objection to taxes going up, even if they were in poor states like yours that take more from the feds than they give. I worry a lot more about the price of necessary stuff like gas, lights, and MEDS way more than taxes to be honest.

That's more your thing than mine.

paraclete · Dec 30, 2019, 05:00 AM

Yes Tal when you don't pay them they are not a concern

talaniman · Dec 30, 2019, 05:46 AM

Try reading with no gas, lights, or internet in the middle of a cold winter. Concern is an understatement.

jlisenbe · Dec 30, 2019, 05:53 AM

You have to have internet to be able to read???

talaniman · Dec 30, 2019, 06:37 AM

The internet does expand the reading options quite well, as well as gives me more flexibility and convenience. It's as necessary as a phone for communicating with my peeps since kids and Gkids cousins and FRIENDS are in different cities, states, and countries.

jlisenbe · Dec 30, 2019, 07:05 AM

The internet does expand the reading options quite well, as well as gives me more flexibility and convenience. It's as necessary as a phone for communicating with my peeps since kids and Gkids cousins and FRIENDS are in different cities, states, and countries.

I get your point. It is certainly nice to have, but it is hardly a necessity. Same thing goes for cell phones. In fact, they can both end up as negatives. Now lights and heat are a different matter.

talaniman · Dec 30, 2019, 08:03 AM

One mans luxury can be anothers necessity sometimes but I get your point, as it's hilarious to see devices stuck to so many peoples faces.

paraclete · Dec 30, 2019, 01:06 PM

I don't think it is a joke it is pathetic

talaniman · Dec 31, 2019, 02:31 AM

Let the kids enjoy their new toy, before they get exiled to Mars next year.