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Jul 30, 2019, 04:21 PM
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 Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Starting a little over two years ago. Silent before then when all kinds of lying was going on.
TDS.
I don't like the guy. I'd rather have someone else, but I hope I can have some sort of consistency in the kind of ethics I expect from a pres. He's done nothing, in my view, that has risen to the level of HC and her amateur email server being used for national security transmissions, and then being professionally wiped clean along with her dozen or so cell phones being destroyed by hammer blows.
Stop holding your nose and see what the dufus has done with his life...ALL his life and what he is doing now, pretty much the same stuff. You said the knife cuts both ways, then consider your own TDS as well. Also consider his southern strategy on steroids modeled by that other repub crook!
LOL, Tom, the dufus pay to play charities were a straight up scam! Not me saying it, but a judge banned the whole family for life.
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Jul 30, 2019, 04:39 PM
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Stop holding your nose and see what the dufus has done with his life...ALL his life and what he is doing now, pretty much the same stuff.
Yep. He has been a financial success all his life, and now our economy is a reflection of that. Well said!
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Jul 30, 2019, 06:37 PM
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 Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Yep. He has been a financial success all his life, and now our economy is a reflection of that. Well said!
And that's his moral compass.
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Jul 30, 2019, 06:49 PM
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And that's his moral compass.
And what moral compass do you suppose Hillary uses? AOC? Warren? Pelosi? Rev. Sanders?
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Jul 30, 2019, 07:10 PM
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You guys kill me. You have the worst person in US history as the president of the country and all you can find to do is harp on Hillary Clinton's emails and promote the "financial success" of the dufus, a person whose tweets you claim to be against and yet you keep supporting the clown. My dislike of Trump is nothing compared to your unbridled hatred of Hillary Clinton who hasn't been on the world stage for years now, yet you can't let go of your obesssion.
As for his "financial success", he took a huge inheritance and managed to get a lower return than if he had just let it ride in the market. His only success was as a TV celebrity - a role he continues to play.
Christians shouldn't tag along with the devil. Some of the evil is going to rub off on you.
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Jul 30, 2019, 07:31 PM
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You guys kill me. You have the worst person in US history as the president of the country and all you can find to do is harp on Hillary Clinton's emails and promote the "financial success" of the dufus, a person whose tweets you claim to be against and yet you keep supporting the clown. My dislike of Trump is nothing compared to your unbridled hatred of Hillary Clinton who hasn't been on the world stage for years now, yet you can't let go of your obesssion.
Oh please. You speak in the most hateful terms about Trump, and you think you have possession of the moral high ground? Hardly. If you liberal dems want to complain, try nominating someone who has character superior to Trump. HC was not that person. The only thing she had going for her was her gender and the perception it was time to have a female pres. She had no accomplishments and no character.
As to Trump's financial success, he took about 10 mil from his dad and increased it more than a hundred fold. When you have done even a tenth of that, get back with us.
As for his "financial success", he took a huge inheritance and managed to get a lower return than if he had just let it ride in the market. His only success was as a TV celebrity - a role he continues to play.
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Jul 31, 2019, 04:38 AM
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 Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Oh please. You speak in the most hateful terms about Trump,
Nothing comes close to your hatred of Hillary that you've been nursing for 20-30 years.
and you think you have possession of the moral high ground?
A flea has a higher moral ground than Trump.
Hardly. Try nominating someone who has character superior to Trump. HC was not that person. The only thing she had going for her was her gender and the perception it was time to have a female pres.
Did you learn your misogynism from Trump or did you already have it before Trump?
She had no accomplishments and no character.
Only years as a senator and being Secretary of State! No accomplishments, indeed! All this while your hero was groping women and sexually assaulting women too numerous to count. Your value system is about as bizarre as any I have ever encountered.
As to Trump's financial success, he took about 10 mil from his dad
Convert that to current dollars, count the times dear old dad had to bail him out, then count the bankruptcies, the illegal schemes, the refusal to pay his legitimate construction invoices, and his outright criminal schemes such as the phony Trump University. When you do all that, get back to me, ok?
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Jul 31, 2019, 05:51 AM
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collusion ;impeachment are dead issues. Wasn't mentioned once last night ;and Russia was only brought up in reference to a nuclear deal . Take a cue from my favorite candidate we have to stop using all this "wonkiness " and"deal with the dark psychic force "
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Jul 31, 2019, 06:50 AM
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Hatred of HC? The only people on this board who resort to hate-filled name calling are the liberals, led by you. Might as well own up to it.
Convert that to current dollars, count the times dear old dad had to bail him out, then count the bankruptcies, the illegal schemes, the refusal to pay his legitimate construction invoices, and his outright criminal schemes such as the phony Trump University. When you do all that, get back to me, ok?
What is it about starting with 10 mil and ending up worth well over a billion that you don't understand? What is it about increasing your net worth by about 10 thousand percent in only fifty years that is so hard to comprehend? Most people successful in business go through failure. Your hatred of Trump is clouding your judgement.
Only years as a senator and being Secretary of State! No accomplishments, indeed!
Those are not accomplishments; they are federal office positions. While in those federal positions she accomplished nothing. And yeah, if anyone mentions someone being a woman, they must be a misogynist. That's the standard liberal, non-thinking position.
"deal with the dark psychic force "
And to this point the democrats have come. If Trump can learn to keep his mouth shut, he'll win in a landslide.
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Jul 31, 2019, 08:36 AM
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It's not name calling if it's TRUE! I own my words so don't care who likes them and who doesn't. The dufus can't keep his mouth shut, blasting at will and offensively, and runs from close scrutiny like a scalded dog! He started his life at 3rd base and a silver spoon in his lying mouth from a father who taught him how to lie, cheat, steal, scheme and scam, and he has continued down the path of lying., cheating, and stealing, like the crook he is to get where he is.
He is a racist and disgrace to the office, and won't ever shut his mouth like most bullies, so forget that landslide. He can be beat in 2020 if we turnout like we did in 2018 in key swing states.
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Jul 31, 2019, 08:53 AM
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lie, cheat, steal, scheme and scam, and he has continued down the path of lying., cheating, and stealing, like the crook he is to get where he is.
All of which was true of the person you voted for in 2016. You might as well stop complaining until you guys nominate someone who actually has some character.
He is a racist and disgrace to the office, and won't ever shut his mouth like most bullies, so forget that landslide. He can be beat in 2020 if we turnout like we did in 2018 in key swing states.
And we're right back to it. You don't like him, so he must be a racist. The ridiculous and absurd overuse of the word "racist" has robbed it of all meaning. It's the word liberals tend to toss around when they have nothing meaningful to say.
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Jul 31, 2019, 09:36 AM
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Jul 31, 2019, 12:04 PM
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 Originally Posted by jlisenbe
All of which was true of the person you voted for in 2016. You might as well stop complaining until you guys nominate someone who actually has some character.
I'm not complaining, just pointing out the lousy character of the guy YOU voted for in 2016. Anyone we nominate of the current field will no doubt have more character than the guy you voted for in 2016.You probably know that already.
And we're right back to it. You don't like him, so he must be a racist. The ridiculous and absurd overuse of the word "racist" has robbed it of all meaning. It's the word liberals tend to toss around when they have nothing meaningful to say.
His words, actions, behavior over his life, make him a racist, not my dislike of him. By your standards maybe there is no such thing and you are tired of those that have seen and lived with it holler about it. I understand but denying it, or ignoring it won't make it go away and until YOU understand THAT, your stuck with it.
Just like us liberals are stuck with you conservatives who refuse to meet in the middle and make things better.
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Jul 31, 2019, 12:40 PM
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You're not complaining??? Really?
just pointing out the lousy character of the guy YOU voted for in 2016.
I can have some sympathy for that point, but you completely ignore the lousy character of the person YOU voted for, and that just seems awfully inconsistent to me.
Anyone we nominate of the current field will no doubt have more character than the guy you voted for in 2016.You probably know that already.
Warren? Harris? Biden? Sanders? They all have their own character issues. I guess the difference is, they seem to be career politicians who have never accomplished much. I do give Trump credit for his clearly demonstrated business success.
His words, actions, behavior over his life, make him a racist, not my dislike of him. By your standards maybe there is no such thing and you are tired of those that have seen and lived with it holler about it. I understand but denying it, or ignoring it won't make it go away and until YOU understand THAT, your stuck with it.
We just don't agree on that. I know of no evidence that Trump is a racist. There is plenty of reason to believe he is not. https://deplorablekel.com/2017/08/23...is-not-racist/
Just like us liberals are stuck with you conservatives who refuse to meet in the middle and make things better.
Tell me where the middle is and we can talk about it. I'd love to hear your opinions.
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Jul 31, 2019, 04:42 PM
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Article from Fortune. Absolute joke involving what a man said Trump's father had done.
Second article. Innuendo. Nonsense.
Couldn't read the Times article without an account.
This paragraph from the fourth article was a perfect example of the nonsense in these articles. "2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
He said something questionable about Obama, so of course he must be a racist. Some people say they heard what someone else heard Trump say. The DOJ filed a suit and of course they are always right. And on and on it goes.
TDS. Plain and simple. In the meantime, I doubt you read the ONE article I linked.
Another passage from the fourth hit piece. "Most recently, Trump tweeted that several black and brown members of Congress are “from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe” and that they should “go back” to those countries. The tweets, aimed at Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), exemplify a common racist trope used against immigrants and minority groups who criticize US policies. Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, condemned Trump’s tweets as racist."
He said something about four democrats. They are kooks to many of us, but since Pelosi decided it was racist, then of course it was. It couldn't possibly have been simply a political statement. After all, anything negative said about people of color is automatically, to liberal dems, a sign of racism.
In the meantime, Rishida Tlaib, one of those women of color, said of Trump, "We are going to impeach the MF." That, of course, passes muster just fine.
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Jul 31, 2019, 06:17 PM
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The tweets, aimed at Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), exemplify a common racist trope used against immigrants and minority groups who criticize US policies. Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, condemned Trump’s tweets as racist."
So according to your theorem, Nancy Pelosi is the authority on racism perhaps this OP would shed some light on Pelosi and her attitudes to the Group
[https://infostormer.com/aoc-claims-n...osi-is-racist/[/FONT]
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Jul 31, 2019, 11:51 PM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
Your link Infostormer.com is named after the Nazi publication Der Sturmer by Julius Streiecher who was executed as part of the Nuremberg trials in 1946.
It is a Neo-Nazi, anti-Semite, Holocaust denier, pro Jewish genocide, segment of the alt-right. It supports Trump, but I'm sure Trump would deny any knowledge of the organization just as he once denied any knowledge of David Duke.
Have you come this far, paraclete, to be linking to such an evil website? I pray that AMHD is not becoming a place for this evil to be promulgated.
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Aug 1, 2019, 12:16 AM
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=jlisenbe;3838853 Innuendo. Nonsense.
That's why I purposely referred you to the KKK so you would know that racism is not just midnight rides and white sheets.
Trump, like any weaselly con-man, is able to be ambiguous so the weak-minded see only the surface of what he claims. "Dog whistle" has become a common expression for racism that most people get. Trump communicates racial subtleties to his loyal base who know exactly what he means. He's been doing it for decades.
Even so, sometimes he gets caught. After 5 minority teenagers had been acquitted of a crime for which they had unjustly served many years, Trump continued to call them guilty even after DNA evidence proved otherwise. Why? They were brown and black. To this day, he still believes Obama was born in Africa, although public pressure made him grudgingly take that back. Then there's the refusal to rent to African-Americans in his apartments. Even after being fined by the Feds, he did it again! That should be an easy one to understand.
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