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    #181

    May 24, 2019, 08:14 AM
    The Iranian nuke deal the dufus squashed sort of put the kabash on all that
    Sort of??? That is not reassuring. It's kind of like saying the Japanese sort of surrendered so we think the war might be over.
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    #182

    May 24, 2019, 08:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Sort of??? That is not reassuring. It's kind of like saying the Japanese sort of surrendered so we think the war might be over.
    That's utter nonsense and not just sort of, since we had a bird in the hand already. Speaking of nukes, Kim says he loves the dufus still, but won't cut a deal without keeping his nukes. Kim is not stupid and won't trust a lying cheating, dufus bully, even if he is sweet and charming. So what's the problem with conservatives? Oh that's right he does sound good to you on TV doesn't he?

    Talking loud, saying nothing, doing nothing, is what keeps you guys attention, and long as it sounds good. You should be asking where's the money like the rest of us are.
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    #183

    May 24, 2019, 11:18 AM
    well unless the Iranian nuke ambition is squashed real soon
    It was squashed - by Obama
    unless you think they were cheating and everybody who said they were in compliance was lying.
    Just Stop!

    The Iranian regime looks very pragmatic. It looks like a government as you’ve heard the administration officials talk about a great deal, a government that you can do business with. Iranians have a definite, defined idea of manifest destiny...the nuclear deal is one of the ways it will get there. There's only one thing these people understand... they respect it!


    Just calling a congress doing it's job
    Oh, is that what you call it. What is their Job exactly?
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    #184

    May 24, 2019, 11:32 AM
    Well let me know when the dufus gets his nuke deal and I hope it looks better than his Korean deal, Saudii deal, China deal, or Russian deal and those are his friends and lovers...but no deal. In addition I refer you to the Constitution which lays out the job of the congress.

    It's not that hard as you're making it, especially when it comes to Iranian destiny. Not saying their great, but the were honoring their deal, until the lying, cheating dufus came along.
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    #185

    May 24, 2019, 01:31 PM
    The President and Congress must work together, or else all of the decisions will either be made by Congress or the President. Congress doesn't want to do their job...there you have it, Trump gets to play Dictator. Keep it up congress, your being played.
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    #186

    May 24, 2019, 01:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    The President and Congress must work together, or else all of the decisions will either be made by Congress or the President. Congress doesn't want to do their job...there you have it, Trump gets to play Dictator. Keep it up congress, your being played.
    I agree and find your logic absolutely TRUE! The Senate no longer even pretends to do the people work.
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    #187

    May 24, 2019, 03:24 PM
    That's utter nonsense and not just sort of, since we had a bird in the hand already.
    You do realize that the "sort of" was a quote from your post? So if it's utter nonsense, it's your utter nonsense.
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    #188

    May 24, 2019, 03:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The Iranian nuke deal the dufus squashed sort of put the kabash on all that unless you think they were cheating and everybody who said they were in compliance was lying. That's what happens when big Bro let's little Bro have his way. If giving nukes to our proxy's(?) is a solution, then that's a problem and disaster waiting to happen, and a thumb in the eues of our allies.
    Is this the quote you mean? Come on JL, the context speaks for itself and has nothing to do with your comparison analogy which was my NONSENSE reference. On it's face it made NO sense whatsoever. So correct me if I misunderstood. Or did you misunderstand my usage of the English language?

    Tribal dialect can be confusing. The point was reiterated in my subsequent post though.
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    #189

    May 24, 2019, 08:44 PM
    Good grief. You stated that the deal "sort of put the kabash on all that." It has the plain and clear meaning of something less than definite, so my comparison was spot on. Perhaps your wording was something other than what you intended to write.
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    #190

    May 25, 2019, 01:30 AM
    You're right the ''sort of' that confuses you is an expression of derision on my part making the point that the decision to pull out of the Iranian deal was a bad move. Who trusts a guy who breaks a deal? So what do we have now except division and uncertainty with not just Iran, but the other signatories of the deal in regard to nukes. He is good at tearing stuff down, simple for him but he has yet to deliver anything better in it's place.

    He does and is losing in the courts though as we evaluate his words against the findings of the Mueller Report and what should be done with those findings.
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    #191

    May 25, 2019, 02:35 AM
    That's what happens when big Bro let's little Bro have his way. If giving nukes to our proxy's(?) is a solution, then that's a problem and disaster waiting to happen, and a thumb in the eues of our allies.
    ummm no If the Saudi's nuke up it will be through Pakistani technology or purchase .

    But let's get to the topic .
    The conspirators are turning on themselves.
    Comey is on the lecture and television circuit . He is throwing his co-conspirators off the bus and they are returning the favor . Comey says that he alone has soul while his co-conspirators let theirs get nibbled away by Trump. He attacked Rosenstein as a Trump enabler .He knows Rosenstein more than the rest has the goods on Comey and probably handed the info off to Barr .Comey is also locking horns with McCabe .They both leaked classified information to the media . Comey says McCabe did it ;and McCabe's lawyers say Comey directed him to do it .Comey says the Steele dossier was not the only evidence used to obtain FISA warrants .McCabe insists that it was . Which one will turn and assist in the prosecution of the other ? Former CIA boss Brennan has twice lied to Congress and gotten away with it . He won't be so lucky a third time .Comey and Brennan both claim that the other added the Steele dossier into NIA about Russian interference .One of them is lying .I'm betting it was Brennan .It was unethical and possibly illegal to do so because the dossier was nothing more than opposition research from Evita's campaign ;and an unverified document .
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    #192

    May 25, 2019, 03:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ummm no If the Saudi's nuke up it will be through Pakistani technology or purchase .

    But let's get to the topic .
    The conspirators are turning on themselves.
    Comey is on the lecture and television circuit . He is throwing his co-conspirators off the bus and they are returning the favor . Comey says that he alone has soul while his co-conspirators let theirs get nibbled away by Trump. He attacked Rosenstein as a Trump enabler .He knows Rosenstein more than the rest has the goods on Comey and probably handed the info off to Barr .Comey is also locking horns with McCabe .They both leaked classified information to the media . Comey says McCabe did it ;and McCabe's lawyers say Comey directed him to do it .Comey says the Steele dossier was not the only evidence used to obtain FISA warrants .McCabe insists that it was . Which one will turn and assist in the prosecution of the other ? Former CIA boss Brennan has twice lied to Congress and gotten away with it . He won't be so lucky a third time .Comey and Brennan both claim that the other added the Steele dossier into NIA about Russian interference .One of them is lying .I'm betting it was Brennan .It was unethical and possibly illegal to do so because the dossier was nothing more than opposition research from Evita's campaign ;and an unverified document .
    Pakistan can't afford to upset Iran
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    #193

    May 25, 2019, 04:14 AM
    maybe not ;but Saudi money may make it worth the risk .They have to have a delicate balance because they have to also worry about upsetting the US .The Pakis owe Saudia Arabia a fortune for oil they haven't paid for . Giving the Saudi's nukes would be one way to balance the ledger.
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    #194

    May 25, 2019, 04:57 AM
    another rat is jumping ship.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...le-place-blame
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    #195

    May 25, 2019, 10:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    Baker also told Todd that he thinks the FISA warrants against Page would have been granted without the dossier,
    and took a pregnant pause when asked if the dossier was used to obtain FISA warrants on other people
    - saying "I don’t think I should comment on that, I’m not sure what else the government has confirmed," and adding "
    I don’t want to confirm or deny anything about other potential FISA applications.
    "
    That first line is the one that jumps out to me, and brings to mind the questions of what was verified n the Steele Dossier, and what other data was part of the probable cause to invade ones privacy. Indeed if there was much more there, there then that blows the right wing conspiracy theory of an illegal warrant and nefarious activity by the FBI and DOJ out of the water.

    Personally exploiters and grifters like Page bear watching , and that goes for the dufus who says he can shot someone in the middle of the street and his supporters would still be with him and that attitude should disturb everybody, and make us MORE wary instead of just accepting sheeple for a corrupt, lying cheating dufus.
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    #196

    May 27, 2019, 05:23 AM
    First batch of POTUS declassification said to include FBI docs of recorded conversations exculpating Papapopoulos & Page--prior to FBI going for FISA warrant based on their alleged conspiracy.
    If Mifsud was recorded giving the "tip" to George...it's GAME OVER.
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    #197

    May 27, 2019, 06:46 AM
    Doesn't matter, George P. LIED about his contacts to the FBI. Why would he do that? Why would anyone lie about their Russian contacts if not to cover something up? Somebody answer the question about all the lying about Russian contacts. I find it fascinating the dufus defenders believe these liars and know they are lying. That's what they do and no doubt Barr will declassify everything that shows the FBI in a bad light or the dufus cabal in a better one ahead of the intel report and the IG report, just as he did with the Mueller report.

    The dufus is feeding red meat to anyone who will take it and your mouth is wide open Tom. What's in the intel report or the IG report that has him spinning like a top to get ahead of it?
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    #198

    May 28, 2019, 06:24 PM
    More of the real cover up .

    The former British spy who produced a dossier describing alleged links between Donald Trump and Russia will not cooperate with a prosecutor assigned by U.S. Attorney General William Barr to review how the investigations of Trump and his 2016 election campaign began, a source with knowledge of the situation said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SY20K

    indict ;extradite ,or rendition if necessary and send his sorry a$$ to Gitmo .
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    #199

    May 28, 2019, 07:21 PM
    I guess he doesn't trust Barr and I can't say as I blame him, but he may cooperate with the IG investigating the same thing.
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    #200

    May 28, 2019, 07:57 PM
    For an Attorney General, Barr has descended to depths never before reached in American justice at that level.

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