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tomder55 · May 17, 2019, 01:17 PM

yes the Republican party is pretty much the Trump party now.

Sorry but there has to be some serious accounting for the Dems attempt to steal the election. It's too bad it took so long to get John Durham involved to get to the bottom of the genesis of this Russia hoax .

The Mueller report did not find a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin to influence the 2016 presidential election. It’s time we find what this was really all about.

talaniman · May 18, 2019, 04:28 AM

LOL, are we forgetting the dufus and Vlad may have stolen the election first. Maybe the dems are justified in stealing it back from the corrupt crime boss that has caused chaos on many fronts both foreign and domestic with the arrogance and impunity of a dictator. There is a case to be made still for collusion if not out and out conspiracy, but having read the Mueller report, I know whose lying, and whose not, and that's without the redacted areas.

I can't blame repubs or the dufus for spinning this the way they have and fighting to keep it out of the public domain at large. They have an awful lot to lose if the dems pull the impeachment trigger. That Barr is a very slick fellow by far, and is the ONLY reason this cover up is still covered up however I doubt even he can save the dufus even if he manages to get re elected.

Repubs just don't have a better play at this point.

jlisenbe · May 18, 2019, 05:46 AM

That Barr is a very slick fellow by far, and is the ONLY reason this cover up is still covered up however I doubt even he can save the dufus even if he manages to get re elected.

We'll see how it goes, but I have a feeling that when the REAL cover-up gets uncovered, it is a bunch of dems that are going to be footing the bill.

tomder55 · May 18, 2019, 10:06 AM

They have an awful lot to lose if the dems pull the impeachment trigger

Umm Trump wants them to use the impeachment card . Pelosi knows how disastrous that would be for the Dems .

talaniman · May 18, 2019, 10:57 AM

I'm not so sure about that since the senate would have no choice but to hear all the evidence along with the public, and not just rely on the words and spin of the dufus or Barr. I have seen bullies use the "hit me punk" routine on scared people before. Or "I dare you to knock the chip off my shoulder" tactic. I think Nancy should take her best shot if he keeps asking for it.

The dufus should be careful what he asks for, he may get it.

waltero · May 18, 2019, 01:19 PM

Repubs just don't have a better play at this point.

I'm sure this play will end in favor of the Repubs...the Dems have no hand.

Meanwhile we continue to engulf ourselves in this (scripted) reality show... When Lies Became Reality

When truth is blurred by lies and misinformation, perception becomes reality and all is lost.

tomder55 · May 19, 2019, 05:44 AM

so who is Vyacheslav Trubnikov and Vladislav Surkov ?

talaniman · May 19, 2019, 10:58 AM

Once a spy always a spy, why would you think spies don't know each other or give up their political connections?

tomder55 · May 19, 2019, 12:03 PM

Who they are are spies on Putin's payroll who fed Steele the information that went into the dossier .The US is victim of a disinformation campaign and the US intel ;law enforcement and press all fell for it . And that is the kindest thing I can say about that because I'm not convinced there weren't people in Evita's campaign and the emperor's regime who weren't co conspirators . At very least they were willing enablers .

talaniman · May 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

It could go either way since everybody knows the game, but you would have to verify it just on GP before you stuck your neck out right? Carter Paige had enough history without the dossier to get a warrant though, so I disagree that it's the only thing they had to get it, and have it renewed 3 addition times. Obviously it's enough for the right to chomp on it, and call foul though, but lets be real, the right doesn't need much to holler foul about...louder and LOUDER, and over and OVER again, and AGAIN.

The birther movement is proof of that.

tomder55 · May 20, 2019, 07:51 AM

it is what they submitted to the court . Given the fact that the defendant doesn't have the same rights in FISC as one has in a regular court ;it is up to the FBI to guarantee the evidence used to obtain the warrant has to be verified . AND Comey admitted on email that it was NOT verified . It should never had been submitted as evidence for the warrant .

Carter Page's "history " was that he assisted the FBI in catching Russian spy Evgeny Buryakov . The Russians had tried to recruit Page in 2013 . But Page helped the FBI nail Buryakov prior to Page joining the Trump campaign . The only reason the FBI 'tapped' Page was to have ears inside the Trump campaign ;and to build a false narrative of Russians compromising Trump.

Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, and others are now pointing fingers at one another, because they have come to realize that their prior actions may not be rewarded, praised, or even excused, but rather prosecuted:

talaniman · May 20, 2019, 03:33 PM

Nice theory, but short on data, especially when it comes to those FISA warrants. Barr's opinion and so called investigation not withstanding Rosenstein is available for questioning by Barr, and an IG report is supposedly forthcoming so all this speculation and spin is a useless exercise in futility, until FACTS can be made public by the experts. Meanwhile the court has ordered Dufus financials to be turned over...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

...and a conservative repub has sided with the dems on obstruction even though the repubs and dufus has blasted him for it.

tomder55 · May 20, 2019, 06:08 PM

I would expect nothing less from a judge appointed by the emperor; and a donor to the emperor's ; Biden's , and Beto O'Rourke's campaign .

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lo...ame=Amit+Mehta

Of course he sided with Elijah 's fishing expedition .

Cummings based his subpoena on testimony given from Michael Cohen, who has been convicted of lying to Congress. Trump will lose on appeal too because Merrick Garland runs the DC Circus Court . It is questionable that SCOTUS will hear the case.

The convicted liar Cohen asserted that Trump deflated the value of his assets to avoid taxes . Is he asserting then that the accounting firm

Mazars was complicit in filing false financials ?

Judge Mehta wrote in his opinion that he knows that once the House Dems get their hands on the records that they will leak them and the only real purpose to seeking these records was for political fodder .

That said, the court is not naïve to reality—a reality confirmed by the fact that the Oversight Committee has said that the decision whether to make the records public lies within its discretion.
See
Hr’g Tr. at 59. Thus, there is a chance that some records obtained from Mazars will become public soon after they are produced.

https://www.scribd.com/document/4108...cords-Ruling-1

Should be interesting ...based on this precedence ,Judicial Watch will go to town seeking multiple financial records of Democrats .Madam Mim's would be a good start …..or maybe the Clintoons .

tomder55 · May 20, 2019, 06:15 PM

and a conservative repub has sided with the dems on obstruction even though the repubs and dufus has blasted him for it.

Every conservative ,including me, at some point, is going to disagree with Trump about something. There’s nothing unusual about that because we’re not automatons. But calling for his impeachment after his Rights were violated by police-state opponents IS NOT a “principled position.” Even never Trumper Mitt Romney is defending Trump on this one .

talaniman · May 21, 2019, 07:30 AM

Repubs and the public defended Tricky until the facts came out through hearings. This was after his landslide re election. We know how THAT turned out.

tomder55 · May 21, 2019, 09:36 AM

This isn't Watergate because as the Special Council detailed ;there was no underlying crime The Dems are actually delusional enough to think that an audit company with the prestige of Mazars would risk their reputation and put themselves in legal jeopardy by signing off on any financial statement that wasn't up and up .Just yesterday Goldman Sachs chose Mazars to audit it's European operation .

talaniman · May 21, 2019, 10:40 AM

You don't NEED an underlying crime for impeachment, and Mazars is hardly the only financial institution cooperating with congress. Some not as reputable as others. A judge just ruled the dufus has no argument against congress getting financials, though to no surprise we have his lawyers appealing that decision.

tomder55 · May 21, 2019, 02:10 PM

There is no legislative justification for Congress to be prying into Trump's finances . It is just more investigation in search of a crime instead of having a crime 1st . Of course Trump is going to appeal because it is a terrible ruling by an activist Obot . There is absolutely no compelling reason that the turning over of the documents cannot be delayed until the appeals process carries out. And yet Judge Mehta gave a deadline date for Mazars to comply. The irony I guess is that Judge Garland will most likely hear the appeal and rule on a stay.

talaniman · May 21, 2019, 02:31 PM

If nothing else, a rule to release tax returns when running for federal office, including federal judges is a good outcome, and given the KNOWN Russian cyber attacks and the KNOWN past business practices and civil court case outcomes of the dufus, only a fool would trust his word without verification that he isn't a crook, in bed with foreign dictators, or owing a foreign power. Legislatively the congress has as much power as the executive branch, plus nobody listened to the dems when the repub house investigated Benghazi and emails MULTIPLE times and got squat, so it's pretty hypocritical to say dems are out of bounds investigating the dufus.

It's also pretty hypocritical for conservatives to question dem appointed judges and turn around and expect repub appointed judges to rule in their favor this time. In addition we have the specter of Duetsche Bank hanging ominously in the background. Just because the repub house failed to look into all this stuff the idea that a dem house should not is preposterous.

Nice try though.

tomder55 · May 21, 2019, 02:51 PM

Congress does NOT have the power to subpoena the financial records of the President on the word of someone convicted of lying to Congress on the very issue .The rule is that they must have a compelling legislative reason to do so . There is a separation of power.

It is not hypocritical at all because Judge Mehta showed his partisan biases in the very 1st paragraph of his ruling (it is only 40 page . Took me less than a hour) . His unbiased ruling compared Trump to James Buchanan ;the President who presided over the dissolution of the Union and did nothing about it .