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    #281

    May 3, 2019, 02:42 AM
    Barr us refusing to appear before the House tomorrow and face questioning by the house counsel. Can't blame him since he wouldn't be able to run out the 5 minute clock with nonsense legalese and would be open to follow up questions
    or the other take is that Nadler and co were taken to task by Candice Owens . What chance do they have against Barr ? Barr is answerable to the congressional committees due to the oversight functions. He does not have to answer to House council interrogations . Why should he ? You and I both know that the Dems love to put people under oath and then set up perjury traps . Let Nadler hold him in contempt . He wouldn't be the first AG held in contempt (see Eric Holder ) . Let them begin impeachment proceedings ....the biggest empty threat they have . Let Pelosi order the Sergeant at Arms with the Capitol police march to the RFK Dept of Justice building and try to arrest him . If Nadler wants Barr he had better set up more accommodating terms . And one more thing . The Dems should stop their bleating about him recusing himself . It aint going to happen. He is not a sniveling wimp like Sessions turned out to be .

    Will the senate interview Mueller?
    I don't care . Barr has not opposed Mueller testifying ;but it is more likely that he will testify in the friendly confines of the House oversight committees .

    I'd be careful about wanting those FISA warrants, you may get a lot more than you bargained for. Carter Page was cleared AGAIN because they found him an unwitting fool AGAIN.
    yeah and I'm sure the Dems will try to invoke national security /protecting resources etc. I say release all with the same due diligence given to the Mueller Dossier . But why are YOU so afraid of seeing them released ?
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    #282

    May 3, 2019, 04:20 AM
    "Swamp" pretty well defines much of that place.
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    #283

    May 3, 2019, 05:52 AM
    @Tomder

    Our governmental war is a fascinating display of politics and the rule of law, and who has power. Obviously the dufus has a stall tactic that appears to be quite effective at this point, and the dems have few options other than a long protracted court battle to break this stalemate. Long term though if repubs hold the Senate and make gains in the House, the dufus can win, if he gets re elected. I remember Nixon's landslide didn't insulate him against impeachment though, and I don't see the dufus even coming close to that. Strange though we have repubs daring the dems to play the impeachment card which in effect would give them the full authority to expose a lot more than his tax returns, and brings back the collusion question

    For sure repubs are betting the public does not read, or understand the Mueller Report, and obviously they will dismiss it and bury it best they can. To say it's a roadmap to impeach the dufus is an understatement. I think dems should just shut up and study the thing for themselves before they do anything else. Of course they won't, and that will be there biggest mistake. And they will prove their incompetence is as great as I have railed on the repubs about these many years.

    @JL

    The swamp has gotten swampier, and with a strong economy humming along the dufus hasn't gotten any more popular and palatable than when he took office, and the problem of a lack skilled workers and rising prices has yet to be addressed.
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    #284

    May 3, 2019, 08:04 AM
    forget that . Their little conspiracy is unraveling . I want to know what FBI training does it take for an agent to become a honeypot .
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/u...tor-trump.html
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    May 3, 2019, 08:54 AM
    That's no more worrisome than the notion The FBI sees stuff they should investigate and even to suggest the dufus should have no scrutiny at all, is to put him above the law. Like law enforcement never goes undercover to get the goods on ordinary citizens. You know better. Only dufus sycophants give a darn that facts come to light and questions should be answered.
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    #286

    May 13, 2019, 12:01 PM
    I wonder why the thread where we were discussing abortion was deleted? Any ideas?
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    #287

    May 13, 2019, 12:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I wonder why the thread where we were discussing abortion was deleted? Any ideas?
    I recently sent a PM to Curlyben, the admin, asking that same question.
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    May 13, 2019, 04:54 PM
    probably for the same reason I did not join the discussion. Nothing new is said and the rhetoric gets heated . That would not be the first abortion discussion that has been deleted from this board .
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    #289

    May 13, 2019, 05:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    probably for the same reason I did not join the discussion. Nothing new is said and the rhetoric gets heated . That would not be the first abortion discussion that has been deleted from this board .
    It wasn't heated. It was fun and friendly -- JL, tal, waltero, and me.
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    May 13, 2019, 05:49 PM
    It wasn't heated. It was fun and friendly -- JL, tal, waltero, and me.
    All adults and respectful exchanges. Intense at times, but not mean. Oh well.

    BTW, who is CurlyBen? Moderator?
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    #291

    May 13, 2019, 06:11 PM
    Our governmental war is a fascinating display of politics and the rule of law,
    I'm waiting for the board game to come out.

    BTW, who is CurlyBen? Moderator?
    I'm guessing he is the one who "shut ur down!"

    We were getting too close to the truth. Old Curlybean Can't handle the truth.
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    #292

    May 13, 2019, 06:46 PM
    Curlyben is the administrator. The head moderator. He's always been fair, so am wondering what's going on. Lots of spam lately.
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    #293

    May 14, 2019, 04:20 AM
    There has been a lot of spam. I imagine it keeps him on his toes.
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    #294

    Jun 27, 2019, 05:17 PM
    The Joe Biden debate drinking game ,

    Take a drink every time he says:
    FOLKS
    Literally
    Barack
    Scranton
    and a double for
    “I’m not being facetious”

    The goal for the other contestants tonight will be to take down Joe hard .Just like they did in the JV debate to Beto .
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    #295

    Jun 27, 2019, 05:23 PM
    more ....'we're not trying to take away your guns '
    and just plug the interveous tube when he says 'I'm just questioning your
    JUDG~ E ~MENT "
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    #296

    Jun 27, 2019, 08:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The goal for the other contestants tonight will be to take down Joe hard .Just like they did in the JV debate to Beto .
    Quote of the Night - Harris chastizing the others when everybody was talking at once so nothing got through -

    "This is NOT a food fight!" Lots of approving laughter.

    Can't they do this some other way?
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    #297

    Jun 27, 2019, 08:42 PM
    why do it at all?
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    #298

    Jun 27, 2019, 08:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    why do it at all?
    It's one of several ways to help voters decide who to vote for.
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    #299

    Jun 27, 2019, 08:51 PM
    Unless there is an exceptional performance it is a waste of time
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    #300

    Jun 28, 2019, 02:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Unless there is an exceptional performance it is a waste of time

    I agree. The problem is there's no chance to really understand where a particular candidate is coming from - there's way too much busy-ness and too little time.

    Even worse is the afterwards talking heads dissecting every little nuance (and not so nuances) uttered. These 24 hour cable shows are desperate for news fodder but there's rarely enough to satisfy the ratings maw with its insatiable hunger for material.

    The truest thing Trump ever said was that he's a godsend for these cable news shows. Like watching a daily train wreck - morbid but fascinating. No, Trump didn't say that last part.

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