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    jlisenbe Posts: 5,020, Reputation: 157
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    #61

    Feb 28, 2019, 07:56 AM
    My question referred to whether paying SD was a felony.

    As to Cohen, am I right in thinking he is being sent to prison for, among other things, lying to congress? If you can't see the irony in that, then you just aren't looking hard enough. It just seems like a bad joke come to life.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/h...nd-neither-did
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    Feb 28, 2019, 09:06 AM
    Hey I though we didn't do links any more? I guess you're saying that a convicted liar would add more time to his sentence by lying to congress AGAIN? Yeah, right.
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    #63

    Feb 28, 2019, 10:11 AM
    I guess you're saying that a convicted liar would add more time to his sentence by lying to congress AGAIN? Yeah, right.
    He did it once, so we know he is capable of doing it again. He certainly has less credibility than someone with a reputation for truthfulness. At any rate, he could contribute nothing to the increasingly silly idea that the Trump campaign colluded with Russian authorities to try and win the election.

    The biggest problem here is politics, not criminal behavior.
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    #64

    Feb 28, 2019, 02:10 PM
    That's for Mueller's investigation, and the many other prosecutors on the state level to determine and bring charges. Like they already have, as you well know.
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    #65

    Feb 28, 2019, 02:39 PM
    Trump paid off Daniels because she threatened to go public a few weeks before the election. The payoff is a felony
    It was a nondisclosure agreement . The charge is that he violated campaign finance rules . That is tbd .

    Why does the right wing think for one minute that campaign finance law is the only thing the lying cheating dufus has crossed a legal line on? Or is it that you don't want to know? I suspect if your heads exploded after Cohen's testimony, maybe you should just skip the NEXT witnesses.
    It was hilarious . Cohen reminds me of Saul Goodman .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnHtGgVAUE

    we learned the truth yesterday . Cohen has a grudge because he did not get a White House job
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    #66

    Feb 28, 2019, 02:40 PM
    Why do you continue to hold these kangaroo courts and star chambers
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    #67

    Feb 28, 2019, 02:45 PM
    got me . Chairman Cummings was told going in that the hearing was going to be a travesty .
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    #68

    Feb 28, 2019, 03:08 PM
    I like it when congress does it's job instead of becoming utter sycophants like the repubs displayed yesterday, and since the dufus took office.
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    #69

    Feb 28, 2019, 04:08 PM
    I like it when congress does it's job
    I wonder if you felt that way when HC was on the block.
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    #70

    Feb 28, 2019, 05:44 PM
    Repubs were partisan incompetent idiots who couldn't do a darn thing when they had the majority, let alone govern.
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    #71

    Feb 28, 2019, 07:22 PM
    Repubs were partisan incompetent idiots who couldn't do a darn thing when they had the majority, let alone govern.
    Guess that means you didn't feel that way. Again... politics.
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    #72

    Mar 1, 2019, 03:27 AM
    You can dismiss repub incompetence as just politics all you want, but it doesn't change the fact of their utter failure. Nor your own failure to understand the nuance between that failure and repub failure now that have made repubs a wholly owned sycophant subsidiary of a lying, cheating, dufus.

    SHEEPLE in the biblical sense.
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    #73

    Mar 1, 2019, 05:21 AM
    You can dismiss repub incompetence as just politics all you want,
    The politics I'm referring to is found in people like you and, honestly, just about everyone. We tend to support politicians who put forward policies we agree with and criticize those who don't. That would explain why you are so hard on Trump but just smiled at Obama. They have both lied and lied repeatedly, but I would feel pretty safe in saying you never referred to Obama as a "lying, cheating, dufus," even though he was that very thing every bit as much as Trump.
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    #74

    Mar 1, 2019, 06:36 AM
    You only wish it were so. Nobody in American history can match the lying the dufus does. He's a natural bar none and its only been 2 years? For sure there is more to come politics aside. Enjoy the show. I am.
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    #75

    Mar 1, 2019, 07:44 AM
    Keep believing that if it makes you feel better, but we both know it is not true. When Trump lies about the deaths of 4 brave Americans in order to help secure his election, then get back with me.
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    #76

    Mar 1, 2019, 12:11 PM
    I'll see your Benghazi opinion and raise you with the dufus lies about the innocent victims of Vlad, MBS, and Kim.
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    #77

    Mar 1, 2019, 01:29 PM
    He was not directly responsible for those people. Obama was. Can't compare the two. You need to try much harder.
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    #78

    Mar 1, 2019, 01:53 PM
    Nope, he isn't -- but he IS directly responsible for his own behavior. He has worn out the naughty chair.
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    #79

    Mar 1, 2019, 02:08 PM
    No I really don't, because we have very different opinions about the subject. I think it's a slap in a victims face to not hold perpetrators to account and that's exactly what the dufus has done taking the denial of those responsible over those that blame them for their deeds, publicly no less. That's despicable. The bad guys can get the good guys by surprise and that makes for tragedy every time.

    So you talk to me when the dufus is as outraged by the murder of his citizens as you are.
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    #80

    Mar 1, 2019, 03:45 PM
    As I've said before, I'm not a fan of Trump, but when I see the hatred displayed by so many people who sat silently and approvingly by during the many scandals of the Obama admin, which included the loss of life for which he was directly responsible, it bothers me.

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