[paraclete]

Methane is CH4. Learned that about forty years ago.

And...

[jlisenbe]

And... read your own previous post and you will understand.

[paraclete]

And... read your own previous post and you will understand.

So you are saying I told you something you already know, ah well, some of us need reminding

[jlisenbe]

No. Read it carefully. Read the first nine words very carefully, and then you will understand.

[jlisenbe]

And on a different note, this made me laugh. Could you have been any more tentative? I mean, "..considered by some to be not helpful." Talk about straddling the fence. Are they bad or not?

Having more CO2 and water vapour is considered by some to not be helpful.

[paraclete]

No it is a statement of fact some think CO2 is bad, I don't share that view but I don't see the point of being wasteful either

[talaniman]

You will have to trust me Clete but high levels of CO2 is harmful to humans. A simple enough test is put a bag over your head and see how that works for you trying to breathe CO2 that you have dispelled. Or try a small room with no ventilation. No oxygen, no life so yeah it can be BAD. The CO2 level doesn't have to kill you, you get disorientated and have trouble thinking, even headaches at slightly elevated levels.

Even worse for newborns and babies. Studies have shown that living close to a coal fired plant poses health risks.
I'm sure you've seen the pictures from China when they shutdown the power plants for a few days so the tourists can see where they're going. Silly humans keep denying the facts right in front of you. Do your dirt buying Chinese a favor and sell them some modern technology so they can stop using those disgusting masks that do literally nothing.

[paraclete]

You will have to trust me Clete but high levels of CO2 is harmful to humans. A simple enough test is put a bag over your head and see how that works for you trying to breathe CO2 that you have dispelled. Or try a small room with no ventilation. No oxygen, no life so yeah it can be BAD. The CO2 level doesn't have to kill you, you get disorientated and have trouble thinking, even headaches at slightly elevated levels.

Even worse for newborns and babies. Studies have shown that living close to a coal fired plant poses health risks.
I'm sure you've seen the pictures from China when they shutdown the power plants for a few days so the tourists can see where they're going. Silly humans keep denying the facts right in front of you. Do your dirt buying Chinese a favor and sell them some modern technology so they can stop using those disgusting masks that do literally nothing.

Must be a lot of CO2 around my place

[talaniman]

Actually there was a lot more until your government got smart and did something about it.

[jlisenbe]

You will have to trust me Clete but high levels of CO2 is harmful to humans. A simple enough test is put a bag over your head and see how that works for you trying to breathe CO2 that you have dispelled. Or try a small room with no ventilation. No oxygen, no life so yeah it can be BAD.

Atmospheric CO2 in measured in parts per million. It is a tiny, tiny, tiny component of air, and there is no one who suggests that breathing in air with a substantially higher level of CO2 will be bad in the least for anyone's health. The concern is about its warming effect, not any ill health effects. Comparing atmospheric CO2 with putting a bag over your head is a poor comparison.

I'm sure you've seen the pictures from China when they shutdown the power plants for a few days so the tourists can see where they're going.

That has absolutely, positively nothing to do with carbon dioxide.

[paraclete]

Actually there was a lot more until your government got smart and did something about it.

Not really I am surrounded by forest, as far as smart is concerned, yes, a few old coal fired power stations were closed and we now have massive solar and wind installations, you may think that is smart, I do not, as in places where this has happened they have power outages in summer

[tomder55]

AOC has adopted a new theme song for the green new delusion :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRDOrCFIY4c

[talaniman]

You have to think big to get a little good work done.

[jlisenbe]

You have to think big to get a little good work done.

She's thinking big all right. She would take a disastrous level of debt and make it much, much bigger.

[tomder55]

you also need pixi dust and unicorns for her plans .

[paraclete]

you also need pixi dust and unicorns for her plans .

What a pity I'm fresh out of pixie dust and unicorns, will yowies and brolgas dancing in the moonlight do instead

[talaniman]

She's thinking big all right. She would take a disastrous level of debt and make it much, much bigger.

Don't act like you care about the debt when you elected the King of Debt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWI4Y6GWNg

[paraclete]

Don't act like you care about the debt when you elected the King of Debt.

No I'm fairly sure that was the one you elected, BO, Trump speaks of being skilled and he must be the only one, because the others certainly weren't

[talaniman]

No I'm fairly sure that was the one you elected, BO, Trump speaks of being skilled and he must be the only one, because the others certainly weren't

Have you been sniffing brolgas or something?

[jlisenbe]

Don't act like you care about the debt when you elected the King of Debt.

I am beyond astonished you would allege that. You voted for Obama, who added as much to the national debt in his two terms as every single president before him combined, and yet you want to bring up Trump in connection with debt. Wow. That is amazing.