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talaniman · Jan 17, 2019, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Many of us who voted for Trump did so for five reasons.

1. He was not named Hillary Clinton.
2. He was willing to address the terrible situation on our southern border.
3. He was willing to appoint people to the Supreme Court who actually believe in the Constitution.
4. He seemed to be concerned about the budget deficit.
5. He was going to revive the economy.

Results

1. Hooray!
2. Ongoing, but at least he is not just rehashing the failed policies of the past fifty years.
3. Doing well.
4. Lousy.
5. Fantastic so far.

His greatest asset is that he is not named Hillary Clinton. Have I already said that??

1. Hillary derangement syndrome. Cannot be cured, but may be worse than the alternative reality. Like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
2. Not only has the problem been exacerbated from fearmongering steeped in racism, it's a real distraction from solutions to a much bigger problem. Narrowminded to say the least.
3. Conservatives don't care about the constitution, they just believe conservative judges will turn back the clock which is a fallacy not based on the constitution. If that's the hope, then it's a false one.
4. That's another fallacy as nothing has been done to address the BUDGET deficit, but much has been done to deepen it.
5. Just like the dufus conned and screwed people for his own gain so that no bank in America will lend him a nickel he takes a good growing economy and heads it toward bankruptcy.

That whole Hillary derangement syndrome has conservatives settling on following the lunacy of a lying cheating dufus and is convinced everything is better than when he opened his bigmouth. That's okay though as another election is just over the horizon and we get a chance for a course correction.

jlisenbe · Jan 17, 2019, 05:28 AM

1. Hillary derangement syndrome. Cannot be cured, but may be worse than the alternative reality. Like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
2. Not only has the problem been exacerbated from fearmongering steeped in racism, it's a real distraction from solutions to a much bigger problem. Narrowminded to say the least.
3. Conservatives don't care about the constitution, they just believe conservative judges will turn back the clock which is a fallacy not based on the constitution. If that's the hope, then it's a false one.
4. That's another fallacy as nothing has been done to address the BUDGET deficit, but much has been done to deepen it.
5. Just like the dufus conned and screwed people for his own gain so that no bank in America will lend him a nickel he takes a good growing economy and heads it toward bankruptcy.

1. Maybe.
2. The usual liberal garbage of accusing people of racism when you have nothing else useful to say. Liberals have become so irresponsible in their never ending, knee-jerk accusations of racism for anyone and everyone that they have robbed the word of any meaning. Try thinking some instead. Build the wall.
3. Ignoring the Constitution in order to justify everything from abortion to gay marriage is what liberals are good at. Stick to the law.
4. You are right in that, but I doubt that you protested very much when your buddy Obama doubled the national debt in only eight years.
5. Trump Derangement Syndrome.

talaniman · Jan 17, 2019, 12:24 PM

Still waiting for the dufus to act on the death of an American journalists.

paraclete · Jan 17, 2019, 05:13 PM

Trump is leaving that to the Saudi

talaniman · Jan 18, 2019, 11:22 AM

American journalist, killed in Turkey by the Saudis. What could possibly go wrong?

paraclete · Jan 18, 2019, 03:46 PM

OK jurisdiction, evidence etc

talaniman · Jan 18, 2019, 04:38 PM

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Athos · Jan 18, 2019, 09:19 PM

LOL - perfect!

talaniman · Jan 19, 2019, 05:50 AM

Oh how the right hollered about what Obama did, or hounded Hillary about everything, yet give this lying cheating dufus a pass for stuff that stinks to high hell and think the left and moderates are crazy. Imagine having TWO earners n the family working for OUR government right now. They'd be really screwed right now with many still having to show up for work for NO PAY.

A fool who doesn't care about his own citizens can hardly be expected to care about a journalist murdered on foreign soil by his buddy client can he? The thing about holding your nose and supporting this fool is you know you can never let go, and will be a mouth breather as long as he holds office.

For the rest of us who oppose the dufus, we have to endure his stink until we find out where the right hid the air freshener.

tomder55 · Jan 19, 2019, 06:03 AM

SOTU address is the most boring speech . Platitudes interupted by clapping seals while the other half in attendance sit on their hands or snooze. Go back to the old ways of POTUS sending a letter to Congress that they can ignore .

jlisenbe · Jan 19, 2019, 06:06 AM

For the rest of us who oppose the dufus, we have to endure his stink until we find out where the right hid the air freshener.

Anyone accustomed to tolerating the stench that surrounded Obama and the Clintons should have no problems with Trump.

talaniman · Jan 19, 2019, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Anyone accustomed to tolerating the stench that surrounded Obama and the Clintons should have no problems with Trump.

Obviously we do, just as you did with them. TIT FOR TAT.

jlisenbe · Jan 19, 2019, 07:09 AM

Obviously we do, just as you did with them. TIT FOR TAT.

I don't deny the many shortcomings of Trump, but I find it ridiculous to see you libs get so worked up about his problems when you were so strangely silent about Obama and Clinton. Again, it's all about politics. It has nothing to do with ethics and honesty, just politics. If it was really about ethics, then you would have been upset with Obama and Clinton. If that had been the case, then your criticisms of Trump wouldn't have such a hollow ring to them.

talaniman · Jan 19, 2019, 07:34 AM

Hmm, maybe that's why I dismiss your utterings about them, because you cannot question the sleazy ethics and dishonesty of today's lying cheating dufus. You had 8 years to prove your case against Obama and half my lifetime to prove your case against Clinton. YOU failed miserably so now it's OUR turn.

jlisenbe · Jan 19, 2019, 09:13 AM

Actually, there is no question about the IRS scandal, the Veterans Administration scandal, the doubling of the national debt in only 8 years, the Benghazi debacle, the Fast and Furious scandal, "I'll have more flexibility after the election", and the secret meeting with Bill Clinton by the AG, just to name a few. These are all proven instances of dishonesty, scandal, and poor job performance.

On Trump's side I would note his big mouth, continued deficit spending, and the ridiculous amount of turnover in administrative positions. As to Cohen and Flynn, what they did is on them, and there seems to have been no participation by Trump, but at least they are being held responsible for any wrong-doing they did. When did that ever happen with Obama?

talaniman · Jan 19, 2019, 10:03 AM

NO EVIDENCE against Obama, and all those hearing into Benghazi by repubs revealed NO EVIDENCE against Hillary. Let's see if the dufus can stand up to as much scrutiny as they did. Sounds fair to me.

paraclete · Jan 19, 2019, 02:36 PM

On Trump's side I would note his big mouth, continued deficit spending, and the ridiculous amount of turnover in administrative positions.

Here's an idea, Trump should resurrect the Apprentice and put the participants to work in the cabinet, couldn't do any worse and they may come up with some innovative ideas to stop the revolving door. You're fired may not resonate so often

jlisenbe · Jan 19, 2019, 02:52 PM

NO EVIDENCE against Obama, and all those hearing into Benghazi by repubs revealed NO EVIDENCE against Hillary.

There was abundant evidence that her failure to act in an appropriate manner for weeks ahead of time, and the incredible inaction of Obama/Clinton the day of the attack led to the deaths of four Americans. Now did she break a law? Probably not, but her apalling incompetence was on display for everyone to see.

talaniman · Jan 19, 2019, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

There was abundant evidence that her failure to act in an appropriate manner for weeks ahead of time, and the incredible inaction of Obama/Clinton the day of the attack led to the deaths of four Americans. Now did she break a law? Probably not, but her apalling incompetence was on display for everyone to see.

Amazing how nobody blamed Bush for 9/11, but the righties will never let go of Benghazi, also on 9/11 when every embassy in the world has beefed up security. And why do the 4 service men who died in Syria not show the dufus's appalling incompetence? No need to answer, I'm familiar with conservative prejudice.

jlisenbe · Jan 19, 2019, 06:14 PM

Amazing how nobody blamed Bush for 9/11,

No one with even half a brain has ever suggested Bush could have avoided the attacks on 9/11, and certainly he has not been accused of standing around doing nothing while the attacks took place. It's a completely inaccurate comparison.

Now could BILL Clinton have done a better job in the eight years of his admin to have avoided the attacks? Hmmmm??