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paraclete · Jul 19, 2018, 10:10 PM

Everyone is in deniel, it didn't happen, why would it happen, maybe it happened, it didn't happen the way you say it happened, the Russians did it, I was robbed by the Russians. Do you hear yourselves, grow up

tomder55 · Jul 20, 2018, 11:26 AM

don't worry . in the heartland all they see is an almost 5% economic growth . that will be the deciding issue this year ...not that socialist mantle currently being by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,who really doesn't like socialism as much as a big nanny welfare state funded by capitalism

talaniman · Jul 20, 2018, 02:04 PM

Let The Dufus's trade war get escalated those farmers in the heartland might need welfare.

Chinese tariffs impact Kansas industries

5%(?) today... gone tomorrow(?)!

paraclete · Jul 20, 2018, 07:13 PM

Tal don't be negative, many of us would like 5% growth and we know nothing lasts forever. The trade war is a bad idea, a populist idea but China needed to be curbed in the way it operates and convinced that trade shouldn't be one sided. America should be careful not to make an enemy out of China

talaniman · Jul 20, 2018, 08:17 PM

Any DUFUS besides you and The Dufus knows a trade war and tariffs aren't the way to go. Only another DUFUS would do it not just to China but every trading partner you have? It's stupid, just like his other actions. That's not being negative, but factual.

paraclete · Jul 21, 2018, 05:22 AM

Didn't I say it was a bad idea, blunt instruments always are. You can't put me in Trump's class, I'm not stupid. You know, Tal, I feel sorry for you, all you can do all day is gripe about Trump.

He is doing what he said he would do, focusing on the folks at home

Athos · Jul 22, 2018, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

He is doing what he said he would do, focusing on the folks at home

Yeah, like bringing back the coal jobs, repeal Obamacare, make Mexico pay for the wall, cut taxes (he failed to mention this was mostly for his rich friends), rebuild the infrastructure, and more and more and more making America great again.

My favorite - "I will take care of women. I have great respect for women". Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-hahahahhahha.

talaniman · Jul 22, 2018, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Didn't I say it was a bad idea, blunt instruments always are. You can't put me in Trump's class, I'm not stupid. You know, Tal, I feel sorry for you, all you can do all day is gripe about Trump.

He is doing what he said he would do, focusing on the folks at home

No Clete, I only gripe about The Dufus HERE. My life is a bit too busy to worry about him since that "big' tax cut has to be spent. HEHEHE! Yes he is focusing on the folks at home lying to his base. The rest of us are on to his BS, and lies.

talaniman · Jul 22, 2018, 01:22 PM

In case you haven't seen the movie before;

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/

Don't forget the popcorn and soda.

paraclete · Jul 22, 2018, 04:04 PM

Is the best you can do Michael Moore?

talaniman · Jul 23, 2018, 07:58 AM

Actually No. I thought you would be amused by the parallels but The Dufus has shown an MO of constant public pronouncements designed to distract, and manipulate the news daily to hide his cluelessness and incompetence, and scandalous behavior, either past, present or future.

Thought you knew that already.

paraclete · Jul 23, 2018, 03:17 PM

You obviously don't know, Trump has a passive mind, that is a person who must react to any thought that comes by. He obviously takes threats by Kim and the ayatollah personally, heaven only knows what he would do if Ahamadjihad or Saddam were still around. Face to face he takes a more reasoned approach so what is needed is for him to meet the ayatollah

Athos · Jul 23, 2018, 03:22 PM

Trump, a treasonous bastard if ever there was one, has now politicized security clearances by threatening to pull them from real, honest-to-God patriots like Clapper, Comey., Rice, McCabe, etc.

Their crime? Exercising their First Amendment rights and speaking the truth about Trump. And being associated with Obama - Trump's nemesis.

He even accuses them of "monetizing" their clearances! A truly amazing statement from the one who takes every penny he can from the Treasury by causing his business pals to stay at his hotels and his weekend golf vacations at his golf courses picking up another few hundred thousand every weekend.

Trump has been in a rage for three days now, running the country by mad, fevered tweets. Shameless, ignorant, evil and cruel.

tomder55 · Jul 23, 2018, 04:10 PM

Clapper admitted that he lied in testimony in hearings in front of the Senate Intel Committee. In fact he bragged about it .

He was asked directly, “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions, or hundreds of millions of Americans?” There was no ambiguity or confusion and Clapper responded, “No, sir. … Not wittingly.” That was a lie and Clapper knew it when he said it. He later said his testimony was the 'least truthful ' statement he could make . Instead of revoking Clapper's security clearance ,the emperor rewarded him by putting him on a panel to review the very program that he had lied about . Roger Clemens was prosecuted for lying to Congress about using steroids . But Clapper got a free pass for lying about domestic surveillance . He should've had his clearance revoked 5 years ago. Comey leaked classified info to the press. He also should get his clearance revoked . I can't speak about Rice or McCabe .

tomder55 · Jul 23, 2018, 05:46 PM

btw

Is John Brennan monetizing his security clearance by divulging secrets to the media ? Once he took a gig in the media his credentials should've been revoked .

talaniman · Jul 23, 2018, 07:53 PM

What a maroon! He is getting fat and rich off the taxpayers and monetizing his presidency for family and friends, and goes after his enemies and that's everybody who says a word against him or gives him a dirty look and people actually go for that crap while he pees on your head.

He's WORSE than NIXON on a bad day!

paraclete · Jul 23, 2018, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

What a maroon! He is getting fat and rich off the taxpayers and monetizing his presidency for family and friends, and goes after his enemies and that's everybody who says a word against him or gives him a dirty look and people actually go for that crap while he pees on your head.

He's WORSE than NIXON on a bad day!

I don't know what your problem is, it is the American way, and you are complaining about it as if it were illegal. What it is is you are finally getting some of your own medicine and you don't like it, well join the club

Athos · Jul 23, 2018, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

He was asked directly, “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions, or hundreds of millions of Americans?” There was no ambiguity or confusion and Clapper responded, “No, sir. … Not wittingly.”

I misremembered that about Clapper. However, Clapper misremembered a section of the Patriot Act and apologized for it. Roger was the original misrememberer - in fact, he made the word up. Or at least he was the first to use it in public. He was acquitted of lying to Congress, but you're right that he was prosecuted for it.

Comey leaked classified info to the press. He also should get his clearance revoked . I can't speak about Rice or McCabe .

Comey didn't really leak classified info to the press. In fact, he was the one who questioned his own determination to make his memos classified. He wasn't sure. The debate about Comey's classified leaking goes on without any conclusive conclusion.

Revoking his clearance for something he probably didn't do is overkill.

Originally Posted by tomder55

btw

Is John Brennan monetizing his security clearance by divulging secrets to the media ? Once he took a gig in the media his credentials should've been revoked .

What secrets? You sound like Trump - say nonsense without a scintilla of proof.

tomder55 · Jul 24, 2018, 12:31 PM

Why do they still have security clearances when they are long gone from government? What kind of security is that? What organization ever let’s fired employees keep passes? It would seem to me that security passes should be available on a need for basis with different levels of security granted and revoked depending on that need. It's not just

“senior national security and intelligence analyst” for NBC

Brennan . There are talking head "intel experts " all over the news media who profit from their time in the services .Michael Hayden is another one

talaniman · Jul 24, 2018, 12:50 PM

I can understand people fired for cause losing security clearances, like Comey and McCabe, but most still keep theirs for whatever consulting may come up from government officials, during a transition or crisis. Why lose the benefit of those experiences? Big difference to me than putting together an enemies list and punishing them. Like many things he could have handled things in a more mature fashion, but no... he has to bad mouth everybody too.

Of course this is a bigger deal to The Dufus and sycophants than has ever been before in our history. From the looks of things so far in this administration he should take all the help he can get. What a moronic idiot.