[talaniman]

Kentucky Bourbon does you that way.

[tomder55]

hacking began well before Trump made his throw away line in the debate or his tweets .

Cyber attacks that successfully penetrated the DNC computing system began in 2015.The indictment claims they began in March 2016. I know that Trump is a ham fisted type of guy ; but to believe that he would publicly request that Russia hack emails ,and they would comply stretched credibility to the level of a 'Mel Brooks 'Get Smart ' episode .

[tomder55]

Have you forgotten that state and local officials discovered hacking from outside sources during the 2016 campaign? The Dufus has NEVER acknowledged any of this or done a darn thing about it since he became Prez! Explain that to me Tom?

I'll explain that when you can explain why Mueller's indictment doesn't mention the Comey revelation that the RNC was also the subject of a hack.

[talaniman]

Even before then Tom just ask Sony, or Target to name a few. Wouldn't put it past Vlad to take the opportunity to make the Dufus seem like he is onboard with hacking the Clinton office. Is it his ego, or what that keeps him from publicly denying the foreign cyber capability and doing something about it?

[talaniman]

I'll explain that when you can explain why Mueller's indictment doesn't mention the Comey revelation that the RNC was also the subject of a hack.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b02b5f858baeac

While Russian hackers gained “limited penetration of old RNC” computer systems “that were no longer in use,” the FBI found no evidence that the Trump campaign or current RNC servers were hacked, Comey said.

Comey’s assertion comes after several months of confusion about whether the hackers who stole and leaked thousands of emails from the Democratic National Committee also targeted its Republican counterpart and Trump, who was then the Republican presidential nominee.

If this was what you meant then I can only submit what Rosenstein said about having evidence to actually indict someone, but that doesn't mean that they are not looking into that too, but we won't know that until they actually have something.

Your Turn!

[tomder55]

[talaniman]

Nice try,

https://thinkprogress.org/russian-bo...-e2674c19017b/

[paraclete]

That isn't evidence of anything

[talaniman]

Just an article ON the evidence. Easy enough to verify yourself.

[paraclete]

Why should I verify a witch hunt, it is plain to see Mueller released indictment of Russians to embarrass Trump. He is playing a political game. The way this should have been handled is Trump appraised of the evidence, used it in meeting with Putin, then an announcement, but no, Mueller wanted to cut the feet from under Trump. He should be fired immediately even if the probe continues.

There used to be definition of treason which was specific disloyalty to the leader, should apply today. Hold one of your congressional kangaroo courts and get rid of him

[talaniman]

You should at least TRY to get FACTS before you repeat the words of blithering idiots, and be mistaken for one. We have NEVER had a law here about disloyalty to a leader being the basis of a charge of treason, so add that to the blithering since our foundation is free speech, among other freedoms. A fact you can verify for yourself should you choose.

[tomder55]

it is plain to see Mueller released indictment of Russians to embarrass Trump.

yes and Trump made it work .His presser with Puty was self serving , pathetic, and sad .


Reporter: Do you hold Russia accountable for anything?

Trump: We’re all to blame


​GROAN !!!

[Athos]

it is plain to see Mueller released indictment of Russians to embarrass Trump.

No, it was to give powerful information for Trump to confront Putin with. But no one believed Trump would turn out to be such a coward and flunkie for Putin as he proved to be in Monday's meeting.

The way this should have been handled is Trump appraised of the evidence, used it in meeting with Putin, then an announcement, but no,

Trump was apprised (not appraised) of the evidence beforehand but elected not to use it. Instead he agreed with Putin that the Russians did nothing wrong.

Mueller .... should be fired immediately even if the probe continues.

Get a grip. Your abject fear of Trump's right-supporting BS being shown to be lies and more lies terrifies you.

There used to be definition of treason which was specific disloyalty to the leader, should apply today.

Yeah, like Genghis Khan. I'm glad you post these absurdities. It helps the viewers to understand what a nutcase you are.

[tomder55]

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But no one believed Trump would turn out to be such a coward and flunkie for Putin as he proved to be in Monday's meeting.

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can't disagree . What happened is what I feared would happen. The stuff in England was a prelude to the looming disaster todays meeting turned out to be .In the words of John McCain "

The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate."

[paraclete]

This what happens when you allow an unskilled person into a diplomatic arena where no one will cheer. You "might" be a big man at home but on the world stage he is a mouse

[talaniman]

I am finally convinced there was no collusion. The Dufus is doing as he is told. Vlad is the MAN in this relationship.

[paraclete]

When you loose empire it is hard to define your place for a while, stop kicking against the goad

So Tal will you get off his case. Trump has done no worse with Putin than anyone else. Trump met another person who has absolute power, that is three now, Xi, Kim and Putin and maybe he realises he doesn't. You wanted Putin to grovel like Kim but it was never going to happen

[talaniman]

We have lost NOTHING. The lying cheating Dufus is giving it away. A disgusting performance even by YOUR standards. Maybe the Dufus is mad he doesn't have absolute power, and he never will whatever he does. However Kim did NOT grovel, Neither did Xi, and no one expected Putin to either so where you got that from is befuddling.

[paraclete]

befuddling.

That says it all, you are befuddled Tal. When Trump called off the Kim meeting the press were saying the was grovelling for the meeting to be back on. Meeting with Xi didn't stop Trump later imposing tariffs and directly confronting China, a tactic that wouldn't work with Russia, but it might be time to undo the freeze with Vlad

[talaniman]

Screw Vlad! At least do your homework and see what kind of fellow you are siding with. You obviously have no clue whatsoever!