[paraclete]

Not with the Democrats, you can't, they are just as much swamp critters as the Republicans. No, you need a good, ole, revolution, many firing squads, guillotines, gallows and general anarchy. Maybe that's what that cache of UN vehicles is for

[smoothy]

Despite all the drug induced gloom and doom from the hysterical left about how everything belongs to the government and how unfair it is to keep anything you earn...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...owe-2017-10-26

MOST people are going to keep a lot more of what they worked hard to earn.

[talaniman]

We don't do the blood and guts stuff in our civil wars any more, not this close to an election, but draining the swamp and getting rid of some of The Dufus's greedy sycophants is in order. In modern times Dems have always cleaned up Republican messes. That's not going to change it seems, though this is the biggest mess since Nixon I have ever seen.

The lovefest that followed the passing of the Tax Bill was disgusting, but I can understand the glee at pulling off a trillions of dollars heist right in front of everyone's face. Will they get away with it? That's the real question.

Despite all the drug induced gloom and doom from the hysterical left about how everything belongs to the government and how unfair it is to keep anything you earn...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...owe-2017-10-26

MOST people are going to keep a lot more of what they worked hard to earn.

Corporations already keep all of their money. Whose money are they keeping now? How much are you going to get from the pie?

[smoothy]

Heist from WHO... The government doesn't own everything... and allow you to keep a portion. That's OUR money WE earned... not them. They aren't ENTITLED to all of it. How much over and above what you are REQUIRED to give the government do you give... you are aware you can do that, there is a line on your tax return forms for it, just give them all of it. Me I worked for it unlike the entitlement whores who leach off people like me, I want to keep what I worked for.

Personally I strongly WELFARE should end... and able bodied people scamming off disability should be kicked off it too, only those with a REAL disability should see a dime. Fat and Lazy is not a disability.

Hell almost half the people NOW aren't paying their fair share, and they don't think they should pay any at all....and those same lazy bums think the productive half should give them even more free stuff. Sorry, NO sympathy for them....get a job. work like I've had to do or go hungry.

[talaniman]

LOL, there are not enough able bodied people on welfare to make a difference unless you count the children or their mama's who are more than half, or the disabled, or old. You loonies have been hollering about that treasure trove of slackers for decades now, while ignoring the working poor who need 3 jobs AND government assistance to buy groceries and pay rent and keep on the lights. Don't believe me? Look at the set up Walmart has that already get a tax break for building a store, and get the wages they pay subsidized by taxpayers too, AND get cheap slave labor to make their products.

You are against welfare, but FOR rich guy welfare? Give me a break with that loony logic my friend. Labor cost are cheaper in Africa than China for your president's daughters clothing line, so what does he do, try to move her sweat shops to Africa to make hi end clothes for rich people, or fashion minded want to be's. She works hard for her money...yeah right!

Daddy made sure she got the money to do it with for sure. LOL, The Dufus has a history of bankruptcies and brings that to the government and you love that too, don't you? Screw those lazy workers he stiffed! Or the banks who will never lend him a dime but Vlad will bankroll him anytime! Bet you loved his MISSION ACCOMPLISHED photo OP with his sycophants yesterday too. You don't have to answer that my friend, I understand you haven't had a lot to celebrate lately, and may be too giddy at the moment, tomake sense.

Hey, enjoy it while it lasts. Glad your finally happy after all those sourpuss years! :D You're cute when you smile in a crocodile sort of way. You are smiling aren't you? Hard to tellwith you sometimes, as it's very rare.

[smoothy]

Tal, I grew up in a state that has far more than its share of entitled people, in the County that has the highest percentage. So I grew up knowing a LOT of welfare bums... 99% of them were able bodied enough to do major work on their own cars and trucks.. many of them held under the table jobs.

The RICH people you hate so much pay MOST of the taxes now and have for a very, very long time.. even government statistics prove it, it's the left even those who are among them that choose to be willfully ignorant of it.

This false claim about "Rich" people paying nothing? Pure bull. Ever hear of the Alternative MINIMUM tax... you can't deduct your way lower than that. And THAT is far more than 49% of the population pays now BEFORE their deductions cut that to nothing... and some of the leaches get back money they never paid to begin with.

I'm far from "rich" but I fall in the range that alternative minimum tax applies to.

[paraclete]

I'm with smoothy no paying for freeloaders

[Wondergirl]

I'm with smoothy no paying for freeloaders

Then let's teach them to fish.

[paraclete]

By all means, should be taught in schools

[talaniman]

Then let's teach them to fish.

How about letting them fish in a pond that has fish in it!

[Wondergirl]

How about letting them fish in a pond that has fish in it!

Even better idea! Maybe those getting the huge tax cuts will have extra money so they can restock the pond.

[Wondergirl]

By all means, should be taught in schools

Definitely we should drop the "every kid deserves to go to college" talk, and spend time on teaching industrial arts and practical skills to encourage future plumbers, electricians, construction workers, roofers, carpenters, zoo and animal care workers, auto mechanics, etc.

[talaniman]

A few musicians and artists wouldn't hurt the culture.

[paraclete]

Yes how are you doing with that?

[talaniman]

GREAT, and getting better.

[paraclete]

No comment

[talaniman]

No comment to what? You always have a comment, and I for one value it.

Definitely we should drop the "every kid deserves to go to college" talk, and spend time on teaching industrial arts and practical skills to encourage future plumbers, electricians, construction workers, roofers, carpenters, zoo and animal care workers, auto mechanics, etc.

Or

A few musicians and artists wouldn't hurt the culture.

Which of these comments offered is it you have no comment too?

I know you made a distinction before about trades and professions, but they are both HONEST work are they not? Or do you think that artists and musicians are a waste of human time and non productive and don't contribute to the good of the society and culture? Or do you stand with Smoothy about the VAST numbers of able bodies that don't want to work at all?

LOL, The Dufus is taking credit for turning America around in a few months, and indeed things are definitely trending up, but they were before he got here, and the finances of the whole global community have shown the same trends. So while we slobber all over the guy with praise, lets watch what the recipients of those hi end trillion of windfall dollars do with their gains.

It's really easy to take credit for a few 3% quarterly growth results, but if it's not sustained over time, or wages don't grow and create DEMAND will he also take the blame?

[paraclete]

No comment to great and getting better, aspirations are terrific, but we really want to see improvement among your artists and musicians, we can't keep lending you ours

I really don't care about Trump, he takes credit for things that don't have a lot to do with him, but he has a few years to put runs on the board, let us see then. When he can turn in years without recession, he will have something to crow about.

Look Tal, a strong america is good in world affairs, same can be said for EU, Russia or China. Let us just have more cooperation and less argy bargy

[talaniman]

I gotcha and concur and my apologies for past name calling as I really shouldn't be so blunt (Or mistaken) to make a point, but I guess passions can run wild, and the written word betrays intents. Argy bargy is my natural state, but debate is the desired one. Damn those personal flaws.

I will strive to do better Clete, as I much enjoy our interactions. I hope you don't mind if I don't hold my breath waiting for The Dufus to do better than he has. I have zero tolerance for lying bully con men who require his sycophant to slobber over him, as that doesn't make America great or strong. It does the opposite and I get really argy bargy about that.

Nor will I hold my breath waiting for the greedy rich capitalists to do the right things with all that loot repubs bestowed upon them with NO strings attached. I get really argy bargy about that too!

[talaniman]