[excon]

Hello:

Are we financing our cities on the backs of the poor??? Of course we are. Is it any wonder black people take exception to it?

Police Shootings Won't Stop Unless We Also Stop Shaking Down Black People | Mother Jones

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[CravenMorhead]

Are you suggesting we should tax the rich more? Corporations more? Reduce spending and reduce tax?

[talaniman]

Well what do you expect when stop and frisk, and racial profiling were such big hits?

[J_9]

Should we riot here in Memphis because the black guy shot the white cop?

[excon]

Hi J:

Well, if you think black people are oppressing whites, I surely would. I hear lynching works.

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[talaniman]

Should we riot here in Memphis because the black guy shot the white cop?

Go ahead, why NOT?

[tomder55]

Black lives matter .
2015 Chicago Murders - Timeline - DNAinfo.com Chicago

[excon]

Hello tom:

I got it... Apparently, as long as black people keep killing black people, the cops killing a few more ain't no big deal.. Certainly, we all know that getting killed by your NEIGHBOR is way WORSE than getting killed by the COPS..

I can't believe that anyone who purports to support the Constitution could hold such a callous disregard for the rule of law. You DO know that we CONTROL the cops, or are supposed to anyway, but the neighbors don't work for US.. They didn't swear an oath to uphold the Constitution, but the cops did..

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[tomder55]

I got it... Apparently, as long as black people keep killing black people, the cops killing a few more ain't no big deal..

Apparently Black lives only matter IF a cop kills them .I've never heard the emperor say 'if I had a son ,he'd look like Elton Blue or Adrius Hayes .I never see Al Sharpton marching in the inner city protesting this murder epidemic . I hear no protests for the black lives lost in inner city crimes . I hear no remorse for the black lives lost in abortion mills . For every black American killed by homicide, there are 19 blacks killed by abortion.

[Wondergirl]

I hear no protests for the black lives lost in inner city crimes .

Black Chicago Tribune columnist John W. Fountain often writes about how "we are killing each other."

Where are the jobs that black teens and young people used to do? But then, why work at a low-level job when they can sell drugs and buy a Mercedes? Why are they slid through school and graduate without being able to read and write? Why do they form gangs to be the "family" they don't have? i.e, where is the family unit? And what are we all doing about all of this?

[CravenMorhead]

And everyone from around the world is wondering why America has lost its mind.

@wonderGirl, post modern societal collapse. We want so much and are willing to sacrifice so little of our own desires to achieve what we want that the fabric and bonds that held a family together are just absent. In order to have the house, the car, the TV, the iPhone, the next new and shiny thing everyone is working and there is no bonding within the family. I have seen traces of it with my white collar, white breed, subburb friends. They both had so much to do, and most of it carry over from their single lives, that their family and children were neglected. The marriage and house almost collapsed. It took a move across the country to save it. Suddenly they needed each other for support and they weren't dependent on factors external to the family for their entertainment. Things have gotten a lot better.

When you come down to it all anyone really wants at a basic level is to belong somewhere or some how. If you aren't getting that feeling with your blood family then you'll look elsewhere. That and cool stuff.

[Wondergirl]

In my own extended family I've noticed a need for instant gratification.

[tomder55]

Where are the jobs that

black teens and young people used to do? But then, why work at a low-level job when they can sell drugs and buy a Mercedes? Why are they slid through school and graduate without being able to read and write? Why do they form gangs to be the "family" they don't have? i.e, where is the family unit? And what are we all doing about all of this?

You would be better to address this in progressively liberal ruled Chi-town . Where are the jobs pols have promised for generations ? What policies drove businesses out of town ? Where is the education that the high taxes have paid for ? Why don't teachers, with jobs almost guaranteed until retirement ,teach the kids ? What social policies encourage single parenthood ? It wasn't that long ago that Blacks had traditionally strong family units . What happened to change that ?

[Wondergirl]

Much of the failures go back to the family unit -- or lack of one. Single moms are too busy keeping a roof over the kids' head and food in their tummies to have time to monitor homework and learning. Young men get girls pregnant and then disappear with pride for another notch in their belt. Businesses have left the state, downsized, and move to another country. Trickle-down economy doesn't exist.

[cdad]

What gets me about the article is that they act as if it is a new thing. It is as old as the war on drugs is. They take your possesions for whatever reason these days and keep them. Look at how many people have lost a home to the drug war when they werent even involved in it. Or those that lost a car because they sought sexual gratification from a local street hooker. Yes it is out of control. But there is also a larger problem looming and that is the disrespect for the police and the thought that they too as a victim can win the lawsuit lottery. It all has to stop. Body cams are not the panacea that they are purpoted to be.

We are on the downside of the slippery slope and it seems that nobody has the right idea except it really boils down to personal responsibility. Accept it and move on.

[tomder55]

Much of the failures go back to the family unit -- or lack of one. Single moms are too busy keeping a roof over the kids' head and food in their tummies to have time to monitor homework and learning. Young men get girls pregnant and then disappear with pride for another notch in their belt. Businesses have left the state, downsized, and move to another country. Trickle-down economy doesn't exist.

"trickle down " isn't the problem. It is deciding that businesses can be milked for extra public revenue. It is the decision to regulate them to a point that they can't be competitive in the market place if they remain . It is the uncontrolled inviting in of illegal immigrants making job opportunities less competitive for the poor undereducated Americans.

It is social welfare policies that encouraged the rise of the single parent family . You are 100% correct in identifying that as possibly the major cause .You did not see this type of decay the family unit in the 1950s . Back then the Blacks generally had a strong family unit that was also strongly reinforced by the neighborhood and the church. The rise of the welfare state contributed greatly to the demise of the black family as a stable institution. The out of wedlock birth rate among African Americans today is 73%, 3x higher than it was prior to the War on Poverty. Children raised in fatherless homes are far more likely to grow up poor and to eventually engage in criminal behavior, than children who are raised in 2 parent homes.

Moynihan wrote about this extensively in his study 'The Black Family ' where he accurately predicted where the black family was headed .Marriage, provides a “stable home” for children to learn common virtues. He wrote that marriage directs men and women toward the future, asking them not just to commit to each other but to plan, earn, save, and to devote themselves to advancing their children's prosperity . Single mothers , tended to drift into pregnancy, often more than once and by more than 1 man. Such mothers are unlikely to “shape their children's character and ability” in ways that lead to upward mobility.

Moynihan's conclusion: “a national effort towards the problems of Negro Americans must be directed towards the question of family structure.”

But then what happened to his prophetic report ? Well it was never officially published because the permanent bureaucracy objected to it's "subtle racism". The egg heads in the universities nit picked his stats. He was accused of 'blaming the victims ' . Any attempt at linking the prospects of strengthening the black family through civil rights laws were put on the back burner and forgotten .


15 years later ,a Moynihan loyal economist named Paul Offner did a study and concluded that , of the black children born between 1967 and 1969, 72 percent received Aid to Families with Dependent Children before the age of 18. School dropout rates, delinquency, and crime, were rising in the cities. The 15 years since the report was written had witnessed the birth of millions of fatherless babies ,and the entrenchment of a permanent underclass. The effects were immediate after the War on Poverty was codified into law while also ignoring the Moynihan report .

[paraclete]

And everyone from around the world is wondering why America has lost its mind.

No, we are not wondering, we are trying desperately not to emulate you

[Catsmine]

Shouldn't the title of this question be "Black lives ONLY matter as long" as Al Sharpton GETS paid?

[smoothy]

Shouldn't the title of this question be "Black lives ONLY matter as long" as Al Sharpton GETS paid?

Or Jesse Jackson...

[excon]

Hello again,

So, you guys didn't even read the article.. Facts are hard for right wingers...

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