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cpres · Jul 11, 2015, 12:48 AM

I want to replace my toilet flange. I am a novice at this.

Looking at the picture, can you tell me what I need to remove? Also, there is an interior ring that is hard to see from the picture. Is that the gasket to the flange? IT all seems to be attached to the pipe. I don't want to wreck anything.

There seem to be a collection of bolt holes. I do not really see any twist flange lines if that makes sense.

hkstroud · Jul 11, 2015, 05:23 AM

We need a better picture. Find a wire brush and clean the flange as best you can then take another photo. Upload in JPEG format. Attach that file to your post, not embedded in your post (it's too small). To do that click on "Go Advanced" then click on "Manage Attachments".

You have a cast iron flange and pipe. From the small photo it looks like you have a repair flange that was used previously, but I can't be sure. If so, you will want to replace that. You don't want to try to replace the flange itself unless you absolutely have to.

massplumber2008 · Jul 11, 2015, 06:29 AM

Yes, a better picture would be helpful here!

From what I can make out, That looks like a lead pipe with a brass flange. That will require a repair flange only. You will not be replacing that... only repairing using a circular repair flange... sold at Home Depot. Get the repair flange and some TAPCON screws with proper drill bit to secure the repair flange over the old flange and through the floor.

Mark

cpres · Jul 11, 2015, 11:53 AM

So I tried cleaning it off. I pried up some of that interior ring. I guess my problem is that I am not sure what I am looking at. All of the diagrams I see in books and online, the flanges never look like this one. I am not quite sure what to do in order to lay tile.

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cpres · Jul 11, 2015, 12:04 PM

If you can notice from the pictures I put in the last post, there are no slits where I can put the mounting bolts. I am very confused as to how I would put the bolts in, which is probably one of the most important parts.

Milo Dolezal · Jul 11, 2015, 12:58 PM

Photo is not available...

If there are no slots in the metal ring, you can do one of the two things:

1. Purchase a new, metal, repair ring with slots for bots, and install it over the existing one

Or

2. Drill holes into concrete, insert and epoxy in new set of bolts. If you have ply floor, use screw / bolt combination bolts. Screw one side into the ply and use the other end to attach toilet to it

Hope that helps

Milo

hkstroud · Jul 11, 2015, 02:18 PM

The repair ring probably looked something like this when it was organically installed.

cpres · Jul 11, 2015, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal

Photo is not available...

If there are no slots in the metal ring, you can do one of the two things:

1. Purchase a new, metal, repair ring with slots for bots, and install it over the existing one

Or

2. Drill holes into concrete, insert and epoxy in new set of bolts. If you have ply floor, use screw / bolt combination bolts. Screw one side into the ply and use the other end to attach toilet to it

Hope that helps

Milo

I really appreciate your help and patience. I am going to resend the pictures. I am surprised they did not show. They were uploaded as .jpeg

Here they are:

Let me know if this works better. Milo, I was really hoping to go with your first option, but if I installed another ring over the current one, there would be no place to install the bolts right? The bolts are too large to go through any of the holes that are on the ring and putting another on top wouldn't solve that problem, correct?

I copy pasted two of them (in case my attachments screw up again) and attached them as .jpegs as well.

cpres · Jul 11, 2015, 03:35 PM

hkstroud, that type of ring is exactly what I was expecting to see. Problem is that mine doesn't have the long slits.

Dammit I don't know what I am doing wrong on those attachments. Sorry.

Thank you all for your advice and cooperation!

hkstroud · Jul 11, 2015, 03:48 PM

As you can see the pic are there. Don't think you are doing anything wrong. Think it's a fault of the site.
What you have is a lead pipe and brass flange as Mark said. I'll let Mark advise you but he will probably tell you to hammer the lead flat (like a lip over the flange) and install the repair ring on top screwing through the flange into the floor. If the screw holes don't line up you can easily drill through the brass flange. Looks like you have removed some flooring under the flange.

cpres · Jul 11, 2015, 04:33 PM

Yeah I had dry fitted some sub flooring before doing all of this. I hammered off the brass ring as your were saying. I peeled the lead straight up and hammered the ring off it. Now I am guessing I will install a flange directly over the lead as normal. And peel back the lead over the flange when I am all done, I guess.

Now it is just the lead sticking straight up with no ring, awaiting a flange.

Haha. I should have waited, I suppose.

Does that all sound about right?

Milo Dolezal · Jul 11, 2015, 04:42 PM

What material is that black chewed up pipe ? Is it plastic or lead ? Looks to me like somebody already replaced that ring once before bending that pipe inward then hammering it back over the ring. BTW: that ring appears to be in good shape. Use the bolts that screw into wood. Screw them in through the larger hole in the existing ring. Just line the holes up, side by side.

Milo

cpres · Jul 11, 2015, 07:45 PM

It is lead

massplumber2008 · Jul 12, 2015, 05:12 AM

I would suggest preening the lead back down to the brass ring and then install some WOOD SCREW type johnni bolts. Here, you may need to enlarge the holes in the brass ring with a drill bit so the johnnie bolts can fit through the brass ring and the bolts can screw into the wood subfloor... then set wax gasket and install toilet as usual. A repair ring is not needed here!

Mark