[paraclete]

Karma, I'm not immune to such situations but I can tell you that healing is possible

Tal I'm not talking about religion, Smells and Bells don't cut it

[talaniman]

You are the one who said flawed humans returning from war have no morality, and deny that they are even suffering mentally and emotionally,

Come on karma you know that doesn't exist, stiff upper lip and all that. It is just the manefestation of an uncaring society.

We all get to the stage were we have seen enough and need to go do somethingelse. I can't imagine what successive rotations to Afghanistan and Iraq would do to you, the sense of hopelessness and maybe it's like that in the cities too, but I think it is more a loss of faith, when you have nothing to believe in but yourself where do you go?

But you probably cannot imagine generations of bombs and gunfire so of course a lack of empathy for conditions beyond control of some makes you blame and shame. For some being alive is a struggle from day to day, and to say no trauma exists under those conditions is a sad commentary of your own belief system in my view, because then you share this gem of wisdom (Derision and sarcasm font was supposed to engage),

No I didn't say that, but unfortunately many have settled for a god of self and that is nowhere to be when you have problems. My comment was a general comment on the state of western society, Believers are a little thin in the ground in some places

So everybody is just godless by your judgement, and that's the problem while you fail yourself to be an example of your own god. You sound like Jerry Falwell without a TV show, or Rush Limbaugh without a microphone.

Just my general commentary on self righteous Australian society.

[paraclete]

Thank you for your comment Tal, I can't imagine why you must take everything to the extreme perhaps it is that self righteous american in you speaking. There are fewer god fearing people than either you or I know but there are a lot of self righteous people around.

[talaniman]

Your humor font is defective.

[NeedKarma]

There are fewer god fearing people than either you or I know

This is indeed good news!

[paraclete]

I make that comment karma not because they don't believe but their actions speak for themselves

[NeedKarma]

As do the actions of believers.

[paraclete]

And athiests don't forget we are all in this boat together

[talaniman]

Oh now we are all in the same boat. How convenient, but does that include all the other flawed humans you have been dumping on? Or just those you approve of?

Your boat seems to have preconditions attached to it.

[paraclete]

And you enjoy rocking it Tal you know that my boat is open to all but you cannot go on the voyage without belief that's the price of the ticket. Some try to stowaway but unlike the muslims we don't throw people overboard because they they don't believe as we do. Karma is one of those who believes he can come on the voyage without a ticket, it is called the universal provider syndrome. I'm here so I must be entitled

[talaniman]

Whatever floats YOUR boat.

[paraclete]

OK I'll try this for the second time, why don't you tell us about your boat Tal?

[NeedKarma]

come on the voyage

what voyage?

[talaniman]

OK I'll try this for the second time, why don't you tell us about your boat Tal?

Don't have a boat. This is how I roll,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvsAqkOhI48

[paraclete]

What I got from that is you love going around in circles

[talaniman]

The world is one big circle that goes round, and round. We humans just go with it.

[paraclete]

So there is no need to go in ever dimishing circles

[paraclete]

So where does Baltimore place everyone a mob of young people protesting police violence goes entirely over the top.

Are their actions seen as justified, did the police go too far?

This problem of community sentiment needs to be addressed by a different model since it is clear the existing model is failing

[Wondergirl]

This problem of community sentiment needs to be addressed by a different model since it is clear the existing model is failing

Today it looks like the (black as well as white) adults have regained control and had peaceful demonstrations. I saw a video of one woman chasing and hitting at her masked teenage son, telling him behave and go home.

[Catsmine]

This problem of community sentiment needs to be addressed by a different model since it is clear the existing model is failing

You don't have to be anti-police to recognize something seriously wrong with a perp dying of a broken back while in custody. Union rules putting the custodial officers on paid vacation without even charging them vacation time during the investigation causes a lot of anger as well. Large crowds attract criminals, that's an axiom. Large angry crowds attracting violent criminals isn't much of a surprise.