[Hyouka]

Cat, thank you for your time. I'm very opinionated, but I'm not biased. The language barrier hurts my reasoning, I find it very difficult to express myself and understand why I appear to be biased :/ . To answer your question, yes, I want to learn more, hence, this thread. I hope that by proving me wrong you will change my opinion, thus helping me grow as a person. The friend I've talked about is my best friend, we've known each other since we were born. My girlfriend and I tried helping him get a girlfriend, didn't work, getting a car did work. Sometimes I may fall victim to picking out facts that help my cause, but this isn't the case. Girls didn't know he had a rich father, because he didn't have a car before :) You aren't teenagers, I'll put this question to rest, but while I have your attention, perhaps it would be better, if I didn't try and fail to explain myself, but rather that you would tell me how YOU see the "world" , this is more important to me, as I'll be entering the adult world in due time. Tell me. In your world, do people get divorced? Why? Cheating? Money? Because its easier to find another person than to work things out? If yes, doesn't that make them unscrupulous and untrustworthy = "trash" people? What is it important in your relationships? What are you looking in opposite gender? Help me understand, how there are so many divorces? They make me fear for marriage, and marriage(family), is the most important thing in my life(my dream). I can be poor, I can have few friends, as long as I have a family I love, I'll be as happy as a dog seeing his owner return home. If you live in some superficial country, where survival isn't at question, people are nice, have moral values, people don't idolize Kim Kardashian, Justin Bieber and similar people. Having one night stands is frowned upon. Tell me, I'll move mountains to get there.

[Oliver2011]

Note to self:

1) He's depressing.
2) He only addresses women.

[tickle]

Lithuania, before you Google, 2.5million population, 1 million lost in few years, we live like western countries, though we can't afford it, 30% can barely afford food and taxes. My family is middle class though, we're OK. My relationship is great. I'm disappointed by my surroundings, I mean, people around me. We have a joke here, if you see a person smiling in a crowd, you can be certain it's a foreigner. As a person, I only wish to be happy, and for that , I need to have a social life, but people are unbearable.

Yes, I know what you say is true. Lithuania is exactly as you describe. It is hard for westerners to realize that a country who has just adopted the euro (January 2015) can be so down and out.

[Hyouka]

Oliver, the topic I want to talk about is depressing, sorry :D

Tickle, we regained independence 24 years ago, soviets killed intelligent people(they were sent to Siberia), rest emigrated while they could. One of very many unique challenges we face, growth is slow, but as I recall we are in the top #5 of Europe by growth in GDP(recent years), will take time to recover.

[Hyouka]

My curiosity is stronger than my ego, so I'd rather talk about people as a whole, rather than my own situation. Sadly I'm very inefficient at getting the answers I want, since I started this thread I've said too many things that threw of this topic from it's main goal.
I'm actually interested in following things, why people cheat, why there are so many selfish people, why there are so many dumb people(not in education). Why do people fall prey to narcissism, why are the negative aspects of humanity thrive so much.

For example, you aren't satisfied in a relationship, why be dishonorable and cheat, while it should be common sense to simply talk about it with partner and work things out and break up(being fair to your partner). Even by being selfish, it makes more sense to simply break up if you're unsatisfied rather than cheat and live with the relationship that doesn't satisfy you. This whole act is stupid.

We can be either good or bad. But why is it that people tend to be bad.

Ends justify the means, until we are the ones getting hurt.

Everyone else is at fault but us.

Putting on a façade and lying, manipulating others.

I know our brain is hardwired to act in this way, it is a means of survival, there are many "Defence mechanisms". But it's the 21st century, we have no more need for this, we can achieve more by being truthful, cooperating, honorable and respectful. These positive qualities aid us way more than those negative qualities, yet, those negative qualities are dominating, and humanity is degrading the way I see it.

For example, someone uses drugs and gets thrown in jail for 5 years because of that. The logic here is , you are ruining your life? Here, let us ruin it for you by wasting taxpayer money! Great thinking humanity!

Jokes aside(bad examples aside), the facts speak for themselves. All of us want to be happy, all of us. Yet most people aren't. Whatever life goal you have, you have it because you think it will make you happy. Everything we do, we believe will bring us closer to being happy. But does cheating, being selfish, lying, being dishonorable, frankly, being "BAD" leaves us happy? It leaves us sad.
Maybe thousands of years ago, we had to resort to those shady tactics to survive, but this time is over. For example, Fear. Thousands of years ago, if our ancestors encountered a bear in a forest, they had to freeze, so the bear would ignore them, if they ran, it would chase. Fear did exactly that, paralyze. Nowadays, we go into a street, suddenly we notice a car is going to hit us in 2 seconds. Fear paralyzes us. We get hit and die. In these times we're smart enough, we don't need to resort to such instincts and shady tactics to survive. They're only a handicap.

Being happy is easy, just don't be a bad person and you won't have to resort to such things, and happiness will hit you. And if you have to, you probably are a lowlife and don't deserve to be part of this community.
Look around, I see mostly unhappy people, it's their choice, but environment affects me, and people are the environment. I'm generally disappointed by life, it concerns me more than it should.
This is just my reality, in your environment people may be happy, good for you. I just want to know, why does having a happy, peaceful, world look like an utopia, while it should be common sense , like touching fire is bad, because it will burn you. Resorting to those shady tactics also burn you, yet people do it, I fail to comprehend stupidity. Am I completely incorrect, or am I the only one realizing it? Fixing community is easy, teach Emotional Intelligence at schools, yet it isn't taught at anywhere. I've started studying psychology on my own years ago, I deducted this on my own, it's really bothering me, a lot. Maybe I'm looking for faults at wrong places, blaming things that aren't at fault. But the world is full of sad people. I want to know why.

[Oliver2011]

Exiting this sad chapter...

[Fr_Chuck]

There are men and women who look only for material things, For many young people, girls seem to always like those who play spots or have money.

But somewhere in the 20's, real life happens, and yes in college, I can remember the girls who merely chased after the men in the engineering or medical programs because they were have higher incomes, They often sold their "soul" or beauty or body to a boyfriend for a hope of a good life later.

These are relationships based on greed, sex, physical desires and money.

Those type of men, who will use wealth to have wives, mistresses and girlfriends and the women who have no respect for their body and use it to get position and powre exist everywhere.

But they are not the majority, but they are easily noticed, The couples who always ride the public transportation because they do not own a car. Or the couple who have to live with another family member when they start, may be more common, but you do not see them.

Real relationships happen normally at work, or social clubs (or church) where two people get to know each other, become friends first and then start dating.

Also, America divorce is closer to 60 percent, from what I can tell, China about 40 percent currently. Wikipedia is not ever considered a valid source, No university I know would ever allow it to be used as a source of information. Some of us here use it at times, since it is a fast and easy to read place.

[talaniman]

The absence of real facts makes this an opinionated rant.