[NeedKarma]

Really? What do the Kardashians say??

[tomder55]

got me .You may think that Sharpton is only a celeb. But he has been prominent in American news for years now be it instigating riots ,or playing the shake down game . Recently he was at the table with the emperor ,as a key advisor on racial issues ,discussing the riots in Ferguson Mo. ;and he has a number of times been on the podium with the mayor of NYC Sandanista Bill regarding city policing policy . He is the defacto deputy mayor .

[paraclete]

Shifting an international theme back to local issues again Tom? Who cares what Sharpton thinks or does, only a minority. It is immaterial to the outcome in Iraq or Syria

[tomder55]

not me . just responding to 1st Tal observation ,and then NK's snipes.

[talaniman]

Human rights is an international theme Clete, as are cyber attacks.

[NeedKarma]

I'm a sniper.

[paraclete]

Hi tal it might be until you introduce a local issue, I could speak about many local human rights issues, like what caused that case in Cairns but it has nothing to do with ISIS and the crisis in the ME. You want to talk human rights abuses in the USA and elsewhere start a new thread or use the thread that is already there

[talaniman]

Isis is local, Iraq is local, and you are NOT in the middle east.

[paraclete]

ISIS is an international threat they are not confined to Iraq or Syria, They represent a threat even as far from the middle east as I live, their ideas find resonance in the muslim community everywhere. We will see how much you howl when they manifest themselves among you. We had that incident last week and a terrorists on trial for planning ISIS promoted public beheadings. How less local can you get.

It seems to be you can't divorce the limited local issues you have, from a broader debate. Stop shooting yourselves in the foot and you may be able to have a broader perspective

[talaniman]

Your latest incident didn't deal with ISIS. But your own local nut. You are the one attaching international flavor to your anti muslim blatherings because the fool was making himself seem attached to a cause rather than his own deluded lunacy.

You could blow ISIS away right now and still have to deal with local fools. They were all over the place before ISIS, they will be all over the place after ISIS. Hell bet you have a motorcycle gang that gives YOU guys more trouble than ISIS does.

[paraclete]

Hi Tal yes we have motor cycle gangs, offshoots of the nonsense in the US, they have their heads down at the moment, in some places they have been declared illegal organisations, and incidentally they have become a haven for local muslim criminals and so are a breeding ground for people like ISIS. What you may have missed is you let an Australian Muslim go from Gitmo who has gone on to become the head of ISIS, so the possibility that ISIS has reach here and is trouble for us is real and already manifest, on a population basis we have contributed more fighters to ISIS than the US has, our security forces are continually shutting down ISIS sympathisers

[paraclete]

The Pentagon has a new name for ISIS - CNN.com

ISIS (ISIL) has a new name; daesh, which happens to mean exactly the same thing if you are an arab, it started as al qaeda in Iraq so why have we stopped calling them al qaeda anyway? Could it be that the US wants us to think they have beaten al qaeda?

[talaniman]

Share some of that Aussie eggnog why don't you?

[paraclete]

Don't have eggnog here, Tal, but I have been known to enjoy a scotch from time to time, try a Grant's cask edition. However today the sun isn't over the yardarm yet. You know Tal we have a different way of looking at things here, we are very skeptical of authority and the higher the authority the more skeptical we become so that those who operate at rariefied hights have no crediability at all. Now that piece I just posted illustrates the point, why confuse the issue by changing the name? Is this some sort of exercise in PC? or oneupmanship? or is it just B/S baffles brains?

In the interests of holiday humour and international understanding here's a quick lesson in Aussie for the northernly challenged

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/par...aign=lifestyle

[talaniman]

Be so simple if their was one language, one culture for the whole world.

[paraclete]

Nah Tal God didn't think that was a good idea and nor do I. Something's just don't translate, but we like the KISS principle which we think might have been forgotten in some circles or is it that some people just go in circles?

Can't imagine not using the Queen's english and how would you translate drongo? That's a bird by the way, or Yahoo? Which is a legendary beast and just think about the word Nullarbour and yet each of these words could be applied in their alternative meaning because we speak in a way where words have meaning that can change

[talaniman]

Your lack of understanding doesn't stop you from drawing your own conclusions I see.

[paraclete]

Understanding is in the eye of the beholder Tal, you don't get my sardonic sense of humour, and as to conclusions, we are each entitled to draw our own from the assembled facts and reading between the lines is permitted. Now you remember to drain the swamp over there

[tomder55]

The French started using Daesh 1st .So of course Sec State Jean Francois Kerry adopted it . Besides ,the jihadists don't like the name so it is a poke in the eye in lieu of taking any real action against them .

[paraclete]

Sticks and stones eh