[talaniman]

Your democracy works for you, ours works for us, so stop comparing.

also please contrast the community reaction, no marches protesting the slaying of the perpetrator, no destruction of property and the rule of law pervailed even though a member of a minority was shot by police. What came out of it was solidarity not division,

More delusional ranting with the usual scrambling of facts?!

[tomder55]

His attack is similar to the 1990 attack in Berkeley, Calif. by Iranian, Mehrdad Dashti. He also had a long record of criminal acts.He took about 16 people hostage declaring himself a "devout" Muslim to justify his acts.
But his past record doesn't mean that he's not part of the ongoing jihadist war on the West. He's the latest manifestation of it's tactics. If his beef was against America than why did he do his attack against citizens of the country that took him in after his bogus claim of asylum ?
You are clearly taking the wrong irrelevent message from the Ferguson and Staten Island incidents . If you are looking for a comparison then a better example would be the Boston Marathon attack. In both case the evidence was available to the law enforcement ,intel and government decision makers that the attackers were radical and could likely attack. They were given the protections enjoyed by citizens and residents of the host country and used that generosity ,like Mordred ,as a weakness of his target. Political correctness no doubt played a big role in both cases. Anything but the truth: that he is an Islamofascist Terrorist.
Your dismissing him as a lone wolf at your peril . Jihadistan has a campaign to radicalize the so called disillusioned . That leads to hatchet attacks in NYC ,stabbings in the Canadian Parliament ,and chocolate cafe attacks in Sydney . But here if the NYC police dept spies on the Mosques they are the bad guys.

[paraclete]

He is a lone wolf in that he didn't have others backing him up but there can be no doubt he was a radical who preached a message of hate and attempted to recruit others. There are real questions about why he was at large, serious questions that go to probity in the judicial process, and serious questions regarding intelligence failure. What we have here is a magistrate second quessing the prosecution case in a murder indictment. What is strange is he was an iranian sunni convert. There are american associations with his dead wife's family with threats made so the whole incident is very murky and motivations may or may not have anything to do with jihad and may have a lot to do with being a psycopath

[paraclete]

More delusional ranting with the usual scrambling of facts?!

Tal the only thing delusional here is the idea that your hands are clean and we should look somewhereelse

[talaniman]

Working hand are never clean, but we are no more responsible for the acts of NUTS, and criminals as you are. To be fair we are all helpless to some extent by their acts.

[tomder55]

Horror over deadly Sydney siege turns to anger | Daily Mail Online

where did he get bail money to cover 40 -50 sexual assault charges ? and using the mail for criminal activity ,and accessory to murder charges ? or did he even have to make bail ?

[paraclete]

Yes Tom as I said serious issues but bail wasn't set at an extortinate amount as it might be elsewhere, the surity was $1,000 cash, what is even more astonishing is that his partner was released on $100,000 bail on a murder charge where horrendous acts had been committed. I understand the bail application, it can take a long time for the hearing to proceed in a capital case, longer even than the sentence in some cases, but like yourself, I don't understand how it might be successful. I don't understand how a low court magistrate could be hearing a bail application in cases such as these. Even this fellows lawyers abandoned him because of the ideas he spouted and fellow prisoners are said to have defiled him while he was held in custody so he was seriously weird.

http://www.news.com.au/national/brea...-1227158650122

As to the sexual assault cases, they are not the most serious charges against him. It is as if he was able to gain the confidence of and power over women and misuse the position. The details of the murder charge don't indicate a crime of passion

http://www.smh.com.au/national/marti...16-128izi.html

[tomder55]

these Islamists are perverts on top of all their other depravities.
Islamic State (ISIS) Releases Pamphlet On Female Slaves

[paraclete]

Interesting side issue, Iran apparently sought his extradition for violence and fraud but it didn't happen due to refugee status, etc. We certainly get the dregs and it begs the question; how many more criminals are protected by refugee status? ISIS are certainly depraved but what can you expect from a death cult, they have no respect for anyone and I have heard even their recruits are subjected to appalling conditions and degradation. Maybe we need to look beyond the alleged persecution when assessing refugees. I firmly believe any refugee who commits a criminal act should be sent back irrespective of other considerations including citizenship.

[tomder55]

ISIS are certainly depraved but what can you expect from a death cult,

Terrorism needs stronger and stronger stimuli to achieve the same result. Islamic State beheadings aren't shocking anymore . Not when the Taliban beheads mutilates and shoots over 130 school children ,and burns their teacher to death for good measure. That's the Taliban's revenge for Malala Yousafzai's Nobel Peace Prize.

This attack came one day after the emperor went to McGuire Air base in New Jersey to announce to the troops the US surrender in Afghanistan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4M4aXI9Ryo

[paraclete]

I don't think the act in Pakistan has much to do with Obama's movements or Malala, it is revenge for the Pakistani military campaign in Waziristan. They are seeking to get another peace treaty they can ignore. American troops in Afghanistan just represent a convenient target so they can get a little publicity. Pakistan sowed the wind and reaped a whirlwind.

What is happening here is a few rag tag militants are defying a large military force in a long honoured tradition, there is a taint of religion about it

[tomder55]

I don't think the act in Pakistan has much to do with Obama's movements or Malala

sure it does. I suppose you think that there is a big difference between the Afghanistan Taliban and the Paki Taliban like our leader tried to peddle.

[paraclete]

Sometimes I think you have difficulty with comprehension, where did I say that?

Tom, in that part of the world its all family and the border is artificial. The tribal areas in Pakistan don't want to be ruled by Islamabad or anyoneelse and Afghanistan is part of their lands. The Taliban is a construct of Pakistan and it is now biting them on the backside bigtime. What Obama says or does is incidential to the ongoing fight. He could take a leaf out of your playbook and bomb them but that won't happen without Paki say so, so you keep funding this proxy war and move on, but don't let your troops get trapped in Kabul like the British did, because there is no border to retreat to and the Paki's won't rescue you as they did in Mogadishu. Remarkably similar circumstances developing, so learn the lessons of history

[paraclete]

I'm sort of wondering; is ISIS a one hit wonder? We don't seem to hear much about them these days. Some sources say they have 200,000 fighters, those numbers sure escalated, propaganda there somewhere, but for 200,000 there must be a lot of sitting around and contemplating which Koranic scripture you will misintrepret next. Just maybe you need a lot of people to keep the slaves in check. ISIS gets press everywhere but where the fighting is supposed to be, a failure and they fizzle. Propaganda doesn't win battles, islamic rhetoric doesn't win battles and if you sit around someone is likely to bomb your leaders. I think the sheep must be very mistreated in Iraq and Syria

[tomder55]

You ar just not following the news anymore.. They still assault Kobani ;but their assaut has stalled with the combined allied air power and Iraqi Kurd support . Yesterday peshmerga fighters fought their way to Sinjar mountain and freed hundreds of Yadisis trapped there . The Kurds have retaken much of the territory they lost. The Iraqi Army has rallied after it's initial failures .They are on a counter-offensive against the Islamic State .
But these items are boring to the lame main stream media. They'd rather talk about US waterboarding prisoners a decade ago ..

[talaniman]

Naw Tom, this week is about Cuba, and North Korea hacking Sony.

[tomder55]

yeah nice of the emperor to announce a policy that has been in effect since 2000 as if it is some new policy .
Trade Sanction Reform and Export Enhancement Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The one thing I'll say about it is that it makes more sense to ease sanctions on Cuba than it does Iran or the NORKS (2 of the original Axis of Evil ..... was Bush wrong about that too ? )

[tomder55]

FBI statement today :

"Today, the FBI would like to provide an update on the status of our investigation into the cyber attack targeting Sony Pictures Entertainment (SPE). In late November, SPE confirmed that it was the victim of a cyber attack that destroyed systems and stole large quantities of personal and commercial data. A group calling itself the “Guardians of Peace” claimed responsibility for the attack and subsequently issued threats against SPE, its employees, and theaters that distribute its movies.
The FBI has determined that the intrusion into SPE’s network consisted of the deployment of destructive malware and the theft of proprietary information as well as employees’ personally identifiable information and confidential communications. The attacks also rendered thousands of SPE’s computers inoperable, forced SPE to take its entire computer network offline, and significantly disrupted the company’s business operations.
After discovering the intrusion into its network, SPE requested the FBI’s assistance. Since then, the FBI has been working closely with the company throughout the investigation. Sony has been a great partner in the investigation, and continues to work closely with the FBI. Sony reported this incident within hours, which is what the FBI hopes all companies will do when facing a cyber attack. Sony’s quick reporting facilitated the investigators’ ability to do their jobs, and ultimately to identify the source of these attacks.
As a result of our investigation, and in close collaboration with other U.S. Government departments and agencies, the FBI now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions. While the need to protect sensitive sources and methods precludes us from sharing all of this information, our conclusion is based, in part, on the following:
We are deeply concerned about the destructive nature of this attack on a private sector entity and the ordinary citizens who worked there. Further, North Korea’s attack on SPE reaffirms that cyber threats pose one of the gravest national security dangers to the United States. Though the FBI has seen a wide variety and increasing number of cyber intrusions, the destructive nature of this attack, coupled with its coercive nature, sets it apart. North Korea’s actions were intended to inflict significant harm on a U.S. business and suppress the right of American citizens to express themselves. Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior. The FBI takes seriously any attempt – whether through cyber-enabled means, threats of violence, or otherwise – to undermine the economic and social prosperity of our citizens.
The FBI stands ready to assist any U.S. company that is the victim of a destructive cyber attack or breach of confidential business information. Further, the FBI will continue to work closely with multiple departments and agencies as well as with domestic, foreign, and private sector partners who have played a critical role in our ability to trace this and other cyber threats to their source. Working together, the FBI will identify, pursue, and impose costs and consequences on individuals, groups, or nation states who use cyber means to threaten the United States or U.S. interests."

An act of war ......no ? Typically the US response to an act of war that was caused in retaliation to an offensive video would be to arrest the people /person who made the film/video . Sony execs should be quaking in their boots over the prospect .
With friends like the sdministration and Al Sharpton on their side ,what does Sony have to lose ?
Sharpton to have say over how Sony makes movies | New York Post

[NeedKarma]

Who cares what Sharpton has to say? Why are you reading the NY Post for news?

[tomder55]

does it matter which source ? The same info is in the NY Slimes too. Sharpton is doing a shakedown of Sony over some of the leaked emails.