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    Nov 14, 2014, 03:59 PM
    The only redistribution I have seen is the rich get really rich, and the poor get even poorer, and the middle class wages are stagnant, and they join the poor as thousands of factories go overseas for cheap labor!
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    Nov 14, 2014, 05:30 PM
    Redistributionist, is that your euphonism for a more caring society, one which wants its people to be able at access health care and a society which tried to shield its population from the worst excesses of capitalists.
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
    C. S. Lewis

    Tal be careful . Your progressives have crossed over from Robin Hood to the
    Sheriff of Nottingham . They are nothing more than the tax collectors for the King. The only redistribution has gone to their cronies ,who btw are some of the fattest cats in the nation.
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    Nov 14, 2014, 06:09 PM
    Well Tom it would seem you have taken Lewis' advice and chosen to live under robber barons rather than live in a society which has a responsibility for all its people not just those with money. I think you should think seriously about that similae you just used, those guys lived in the days of King John, a usurper whereas you live in a different day where the peasants are far better off and more lightly taxed
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    #24

    Nov 16, 2014, 04:01 PM
    The Cold War was in action in Brisbane in a different way with Putin under pressure in various ways from various countries, apparently the Canadian prime Minister was undecided as to whether he should shake Putin's hand and Putin was photographed looking uncomfortable on a number of occasions but I particularly liked his gun pointing gesture while shaking Tony Abbotts hand
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    #25

    Nov 18, 2014, 06:42 AM
    Russia attacks US currency
    This just in

    Putin just made his move...
    Russia has begun dumping U.S. dollars

    Dear Concerned American,

    This is a quickly developing story that you need to see. It's being reported that under the direct order of President Vladimir Putin, Russia has begun dumping U.S. dollars.

    Over the last few days the amount has added up to an estimated $2 billion. However, new details are emerging that suggest this direct attack on our currency may quickly escalate.

    Putin has been taking a series of calculated measures to expose weak spots in our economy and national security that pre-date his Crimean invasion.

    But according to this must-read story, what he's now setting in motion could bankrupt millions of Americans virtually overnight.
    I wouldn't expect that Russia has the economic clout to bankrupt many americans but fluctuations in the value of the US dollar will affect the US and its allies and make the Chinese bond holders nervious and the touts who trade on such predictions will certainly be trying to rip off the unwary. All a consequence of Cold War
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    Nov 18, 2014, 06:48 AM
    Seems to be only conservative blogs making this a story, haven't seen any actual data that support the contention.
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    Nov 18, 2014, 06:55 AM
    Good luck Vlad, selling oil and stuff and expecting rubles that ain't worth crap.
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    Nov 18, 2014, 07:55 AM
    dumping dollars ? What is he converting them to ? Rubles ?????!!!! Bwaaahaaahaaaaaaaaaa !!!!
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    Nov 18, 2014, 08:12 AM
    He sure won't dump them in the ocean, everybody will be naked and swimming for dollars! Including the Chinese.
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    Nov 18, 2014, 08:43 AM
    From the same source, which I (read everyday)

    Wilbur Ross: 'Investors Have No Alternatives' to Stocks

    "Each and every day the central banks in the world get more out of control fueling a bubble the likes of which we have never seen in modern times, if ever," he told Fox Business Network.
    The sky is always falling for whatever reason all the time!
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    #31

    Nov 18, 2014, 09:06 AM
    LOL... Newsmax.
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    Nov 18, 2014, 09:26 AM
    Vlad loves to scare people to get what he wants! Most dictators do!
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    #33

    Nov 18, 2014, 02:14 PM
    Vlad is in big trouble, the Ruble has devalued by half and continues to fall, I expect that Russia cannot continue to hold the $400B reserves of US currency and as no one wants Rubles they have to do something to shore up the currency. This is the impact of the sanctions imposed over Ukraine. There are other currencies they can hold which might not fluctuiate strongly or are more in line with their trading partnerships and there is always gold

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