[smoothy]

Better late than never... after years of the libtards screaming like lunatics about Bush Lying about WMD's in IRAQ. The New York Times of all publications admits Bush was right all along like so many of us were saying all along. I guess they finally decided to stop covering for every blunder President Zero has been making like they used to do.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...pons.html?_r=1


SO here goes the in-your-face dance.

[talaniman]

Participants in the chemical weapons discoveries said the United States suppressed knowledge of finds for multiple reasons, including that the government bristled at further acknowledgment it had been wrong. “They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds,” Mr. Lampier said. “And all of this was from the pre-1991 era.”
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.

Well worth the lives and treasure of 10 years, huh? Didn't even have oil to show for it.

[smoothy]

Blame Obama for that... he must have given it all back since you guys were claiming we went in to take it in the first place. THat makes Obama the bigger fool. Besides, far more people of our people died under Obamas watch than under Bushes.

[talaniman]

Whatever. At least we finally know how Saddam got his WMP's. We helped him!!

[tomder55]

The 1991,UNSC Resolution 687 required Iraq to "unconditionally accept the destruction, removal or rendering harmless" of all its chemical and biological weaponry."

So what the Slimes evidently discovered is that instead of destroying them ,he buried a significant portion of that arsenal . 17 U.N. resolutions later he still wouldn't come clean . Instead he kicked out inspectors and (with the help of the top levels of the UN bureaucracy ) violated all the sanctions imposed on Iraq. Res. 1441 was Saddam's final chance. When he refused to comply ;50 nations supported the invasion.

Now we learn that the injury to US troops exposed to these chemical weapons went unreported because the troops were ordered to clam up is a shameful mark on the Bush adm .

What we learn from this is that Saddam's weapons were still quite potent ,and we needed to stay their to finish the job instead of dismantling the victory achieved
The Islamic State now possesses the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein never had. Great job Emperor Zero .

[talaniman]

Reagan and Bush1 and the Europeans shouldn't have given Saddam WMD's (or Iran{contra}), and Bush2 wouldn't have to invade Iraq, and Obama wouldn't have a war to vote against, run on, or leave from.

No ISIS, just a dead Bin Laden.

[smoothy]

Well since President Zero got away with it all these years.


It was Barraks fault.

ISIS certainly is.

[paraclete]

I has long being suspected that there was a buried stockpile, nothing new here

[tomder55]

From Colin Powell's address to the UN about Saddam's WMDs

Second, as with biological weapons, Saddam Hussein has never accounted for vast amounts of chemical weaponry: 550 artillery shells with mustard, 30,000 empty munitions and enough precursors to increase his stockpile to as much as 500 tons of chemical agents. If we consider just one category of missing weaponry -- 6,500 bombs from the Iran-Iraq war -- UNMOVIC says the amount of chemical agent in them would be in the order of 1,000 tons. These quantities of chemical weapons are now unaccounted for. Dr. Blix has quipped that, quote, "Mustard gas is not (inaudible) You are supposed to know what you did with it."
We believe Saddam Hussein knows what he did with it, and he has not come clean with the international community. We have evidence these weapons existed. What we don't have is evidence from Iraq that they have been destroyed or where they are. That is what we are still waiting for.

It's very convenient of the anti-invasion crowd to overlook this part of the presentation when the case for invasion was being built . As has now been demonstrated ,these weapons did not lose any of their potency when they were hidden from the inspectors . Again I refer that UNSC Resolution 687 required that Iraq "unconditionally accept the destruction, removal or rendering harmless" of all its chemical and biological weaponry."

[talaniman]

Destabilizing the whole middle east united the shia's in Iran and Iraq, and Colon Powell also said "you broke it, you own it!".

This was never about WMD's in the first place, that was just the excuse that Bush/Cheney sold the world.

[tomder55]

You also complained that the US took a realpolitik position, supporting dictatorships and Kingdoms in the ME . What was your position when Bubba dropped over 600 munitions on Saddam's facilities in a 4 day period in 1998 . What was your position when he signed H.R. 4655 ,the Iraqi Liberation Act ?

Read Clintoon's address to the nation in 1998 and tell me if it is not almost verbatim the same justification that the Bush Adm. used .
Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike - December 16, 1998

Was Wmd just the "excuse " Bubba used ?

[talaniman]

Did Bubba send in the troops as a response to Saddams intransigence? Even Bush1 was more circumspect and pragmatic. Saddam as crazy a dictator as he was was the counterbalance of a growing shia influence of the Iranian moolahs that overthrew the shah.

Stop being strictly a free market capitalist, chasing your own money, and follow the MONEY. As the American dollar is as strong as you can get in the world, since it's the standard measure of value for every damn thing. Maybe you just need a bigger map, and a better grasp of manipulation and control through extraction on a global scale.

[tomder55]

yeah I know Bubba also declined to use troops when he had a clean shot to take out OBL before 9-11 . I guess the Dems don't recognize dropping tons of ordinance from the sky as an act of war. Did Clintoon's 4 days of bombing force Saddam to come clean ? Nope . Did a decade of no fly zones and sanctions ? Nope . So another corollary to the Dem war doctrine is that you don't have to actually achieve an objective ...just make a statement .... sorta like " the use of chemical weapons is a red line " . Operation Desert Fox was more like 'wag the dog'.
All the Dems supported the Iraq Liberation Act . I could bore you to death with all the quotes from the various Dem leaders who spoke out against Saddam and the danger he posed with WMD. I guess the other Dem doctrine is speak loud and bellicose and carry a wet noodle . You know ...smart diplomacy and all that .

[Catsmine]

Destabilizing the whole middle east

Such as the Democrat President Teeth allowing a fundamentalist takeover and excusing an Act of War in '78?

[talaniman]

Yeah, I remember how King Reagan cleaned up that mess.

[paraclete]

Ah the days when you could do whatever you wanted