[paraclete]

You have a problem Tom you have not grasped, yours is a large nation growing larger and richer, therefore nothing you do can be by definition small, and therefore you have complexity, which means many people to manage the complexity. The only thing you can really do is reduce redundancy, let the states do what they should do and fund them doing it, and let the federal government do what it should be doing, which isn't second guessing the states. You also need to stop the stapling of bills and push all appropriations into the budget, which means you have to have a different mechanism for managing the budget since the one you have doesn't work

[tomder55]

sorry ;there are defined powers written into the constitution for the Federal Government ;and the gvt long ago exceeded their mandate.

[paraclete]

You keep saying that so isn't the answer in the federal government pulling back from that, it is either that or abolishing state governments

[talaniman]

No Clete, their solution is for the house to sue the president.

[tomder55]

not mine... that law suit is the dumbest idea in a long line of dumb ideas the Bonehead led House has come up with.
I guess they haven't considered how wrought with danger it is to leave this in the hands of the judiciary .
Have they even considered the possibility that a judge might just kick their case out of court and decide the House has no standing ? You want to unleash an imperial emperor then let the courts give him a green light for his unconstitutional use of executive powers.
And you Dems had also better hope that doesn't happen because eventually there will be another Repubic Nixon in the White House. I guarantee you that if Nixon were running the show today ;that Congress wouldn't lay a glove on him .

[paraclete]

You just don't get it. The House has discovered they are not all powerful and it vexes them greatly. Political power is no good to you when you can't exercise it to get your agenda up and the House fails to recognise that it is the Presidential agenda the people voted for in sufficient numbers to put Obama in the White House.
So the House can't get through and the President can't get through and compromise is not in the wind. You truly need to align your terms over there so you have more consensus in the direction you are going

[talaniman]

27 working days left on the house calendar after they come from a month long vacation and all they can agree on is sue the president?

House plans only 109 workdays in 2012 - CBS News

House Reduces Workdays On 2014 Calendar After Working So Hard In 2013

We should be suing the house it seems. Or better yet fire them.

[paraclete]

Well Tal it won't be long before you can fire the House if you want to. So the trick is to get the electorate focused on what's wrong in the House instead of what's wrong in the White House. I can see the confusion. An election where the policy is to sue the President, that is a real long term focus there. I mean I could just see myself voting for a candidate who has that as a primary platform. Like how dumb can you get?

[tomder55]

the country is safer when the government is on vacation.

[paraclete]

Yes and that means Presidential government by decree and yet isn't this the very problem, the President issues one little decree and everyone goes APE

[talaniman]

Not everyone goes ape, just ultra conservative small government states rights advocates. WINGERS in plain language.

[paraclete]

Well Tal that's what I meant, when the President doesn't confine his decrees to pardons and tries to get something done, the trogladites revolt

[tomder55]

Not everyone goes ape, just ultra conservative small government states rights advocates. WINGERS in plain language.

the fact that the term "Presidential Decree" is used and you don't go "ape" is frighteningly telling .

[talaniman]

It's hardly the end of the world Tom, and having been through it MANY times, no need to panic. I have said many times before thriving and surviving is your own personal responsibility. And the next election looms. Live in fear of your own elected government is YOUR choice. I choose differently.

Why go ape when you can thrive?

[tomder55]

Why not just have a monach ? It is bad enough now ... when the inevidible happens ;and some appointed for life unaccountable justice tosses the Repubic case out of court and tells Bonehead he has no standing .....Whatever restraint against an imperial President ;(except impeachment ...which was diluted as a tool with the 12th amendment ) ,is gone .
Ex keeps on talking about the IRS scandal not reaching the White House and I say that just because the emperor refuses to cooperate and get to the bottom of it makes him constitutionally responsible for the outrage . His inaction is cause enough for impeachment . But the idiot Repubics can lay out a case of outrages this emperor has inflicted and still say " NO .... nothing impeachable there ! "

[smoothy]

Proof the left actually believes Obama is a King, Emperor, or the Messiah... that they believe its his right to rule by decree, despire what the law and the constitution say about it.

[talaniman]

Proof that the right can holler loud and produce NOTHING!! You big crybabies!!!!!!!!!!

[NeedKarma]

Proof the left actually believes Obama is a King, Emperor, or the Messiah... that they believe its his right to rule by decree, despire what the law and the constitution say about it.

I don't think you've ever offered proof of ANYTHING you've posted as fact here. LOL

[smoothy]

I don't think you've ever offered proof of ANYTHING you've posted as fact here. LOL

As oppsed to you? Bwahahaha.

Look at the constitution... its spells everything out quite clearly... and its written in plain English if you ever took the time to read it.

Show proof anywhere that he does have the right to do anythign he wants despite the law or constitutionj.

[talaniman]

The burden of proof is on the accuser. The arbiter is a judge. You haven't won in the court of opinion yet, let alone a court of law.