[Catsmine]

Marines at Quantico

You're not aware of the FBI Academy? The people that brought us Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elian Gonzales, and a lengthy non-investigation of Lois Lerner?

[paraclete]

big place quanico

[Catsmine]

pretty delusional

Yep, I'm a fruitcake. There's a lot of us.

https://www.aclu.org/war-comes-home-...rican-policing

[talaniman]

I kind of agree with most of your link Cats, but I won't minimize the true nature of criminals that hide among the population, with the air of legitimacy, and terrorize entire neighborhoods. That's no excuse for sloppy police work, or sloppy policing. The notion of NO police isn't the solution either.

Oversight and accountability is the key factor in serve and protect in my view, NOT fear or mistakes preventing it. An unregulated militia is as dangerous as a criminal horde.

[paraclete]

An unregulated militia is as dangerous as a criminal horde.

No doubt the thought of those founders when they made provision for officers to be appointed, you see the problem here is a portion of the text has been taken to confer an absolute right when in fact a full reading discloses purpose and intent. These days in legal documents we make the statement that the document embodies the full understanding but others want to use other references to find a relevance to their point of view, thus letters and writings are introduced into the discussion

[speechlesstx]

An unregulated militia is as dangerous as a criminal horde

An unrestrained government is worse.

[NeedKarma]

An unrestrained government is worse.

I know, do you realize how many deaths the Bush era is responsible for? One of the reasons the conservatives weren't popular with the voters twice in a row.

[speechlesstx]

Bush, Obama, Clinton, I don’t care who is in the White House - an unrestrained government is a threat. The Founders would agree.

[NeedKarma]

You've already lost control of your government. It should be your first priority for all americans to get it back to the people, regardless of your party affiliation.

[tomder55]

when we say we want to take our country back ,Eric Holder accuses us of racism.

[paraclete]

well it depends upon whose saying it and for what reason, a case could be put that the majority want it back, whether that's racist or not depends on what card they are playing, but you sure have a lot of illegal immigrants and hangers on to the system, I doubt it could be said they have taken control but perhaps they blur the image

[talaniman]

The history of immigration in this country is one of the new immigrants being hated and mistrusted. Appears the same cycle is being repeated and takes many years, and even more than a decade to resolve. Generally until the next wave, or big building project comes along. Or war.

LOL, look at the waves of refugees/immigrants throughout the world for whatever reasons and see its not just OUR immigration problem, but almost every country/nation/regions problem. None have solved it completely, not even Australia.

Imagine if the Palestinians started to run for a safe place? Where would they go? Abject poverty and need caused by political/military/ conflict creates these humanitarian crisis, YET AGAIN... and again... and again and will continue until someone figures it out.

[tomder55]

well it depends upon whose saying it and for what reason, a case could be put that the majority want it back, whether that's racist or not depends on what card they are playing, but you sure have a lot of illegal immigrants and hangers on to the system, I doubt it could be said they have taken control but perhaps they blur the image

indeed it does matter who's saying it . When Howard Dean was campaigning in 2008 screaming about 'taking back the country ' ;it was a good thing. When Tea Party folks say the same thing ,they are being 'racists ' according to Eric Holder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5mRYUPU_tY

Meanwhile Dems use the phrase as titles of the political screeds :

"You Have the Power: "How to Take Back Our Country and Restore Democracy in America"and "Winning Back America" by Howard Dean.

"Take It Back: A Battle Plan for Democratic Victory."By Paul Begala and
James Carville

"Taking Back America" by the editor of the lefty rag 'The Nation
Katrina vanden Hevuel

"We the People: A Call to Take Back America" by lefty radio host Thom Hartmann.


racists all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[talaniman]

Liberals mean take back the notions of equality, liberty and opportunity, while the wingers want to take back the power and influence they once had for themselves while keeping everyone else in their place below them. That's what happens when you holler, scream, and call names, and obstruct the rights of others by making yours more important.

You resist the change that says share equally and seek a return to dictate, and dominate, and justify by promoting why everyone is NOT equal. Its worse than racism, it's arrogant entitlement. No one is fooled by the rights all out assault on the common good because the only good you recognize is your own. You work hard and holler loud to make the rules reflect that.

[smoothy]

Says the people who depend on a voting block who gets all or most of their income from handouts paid for by the rest of use that actually have to work for a living?

[talaniman]

Democrats aren't the only poor people on welfare. A huge republican base are poor people too. You are just lucky your job is unaffected as so many other hardworking people have been the last few years. If you work for the government, your wages were frozen.

It's a Fact: Republican Run Red States Have America's Highest Poverty Rates

It is fairly common knowledge the former Confederacy considered owning human beings a biblically-supported and constitutional right according to their interpretation of the 10^thAmendment. But even after losing the Civil War they persisted in targeting other groups for discrimination with biblical justification. Since their war against America, southern states opposed interracial marriage, women's right to vote, civil rights, voting rights, women's right to choose their reproductive health, and recently gay rights. The impetus for their opposition to those rights guaranteed in the Constitution is founded in their religion and since they were prohibited by the Constitution from depriving those groups of their rights, they have taken out their anger on the rest of the population by electing Republicans to Congress who promise to subject every American to conditions red southern state residents live under including poverty, slave wages, sickness and disease, and no hope of ever escaping their chosen lifestyle.

Yep, that's you guys all right!

[NeedKarma]

voting block who gets all or most of their income from handouts

You continue to make the assumption that destitute people are all democrats. Why is that?

[speechlesstx]

No one is fooled by the rights all out assault on the common good because the only good you recognize is your own

Wow, with the regime we have now that insists everyone bow to his will that's an awfully surreal statement.

[smoothy]

Most Democrat votors ARE on the dole... thats the only reason democrats are so dead set on giving that lazy bunch money they take by force from those of use who actually work because we aren't lazy.

That's the ONLY group the Democrats defend... and everyone knows they don't do anything to help anyone that's part of any group that's not a majority Democrat voting block.

[NeedKarma]

those of use who actually work because we aren't lazy

How can you be working when you're posting here all day? Is this your job?