[tiny6612]

I drank a pint of vodka last Friday night starting around 8 pm and a 12 ounce beer and stopped around midnight. Passed out until about 5 am and drank another 12 beer.

I was tested for EtG on the following Monday at 8:30 am.
What are my chances of passing the EtG test?

[odinn7]

Since you tell us you passed out and then drank another "12 beer", it is hard to say....

Is that a 12 ounce beer?
Is that 12 beers?
When did you stop?

So anyway, given what I can make of this, your chances are not good. But then, you kind of already knew that, right? I mean, why would you take a chance anyway? And not just a chance...a BINGE.

[Alty]

Very good chance you'll fail. When did you finish the 12th beer on Saturday, after starting at 5am?

What do you stand to lose if you fail?

[AntC]

When did you finish the "12 beer" ? If you were over 48 hours after your last drink, there is a good chance of passing.

[Alty]

Actually, according to actual experts, and not data found online, at 48 hours you still have a very good chance of failing. The cutoff that experts agree on is 60-80 hours.

[AntC]

Alty, I respectfully disagree with you. My opinions come from peer reviewed medical articles published in scientific publications.

[tiny6612]

After the 1 pint of vodka and the 1 12 ounce beer which I stopped at midnight due to passing out Friday night. I woke up at 5 am and finished 1 more 12 ounce beer (not 12, 12 beers). I also dranks a ton of water and did some sweating. I am also over 300 lbs

[QUOTE=tiny6612;3669069]After the 1 pint of vodka and the 1 12 ounce beer which I stopped at midnight due to passing out Friday night. I woke up at 5 am and finished 1 more 12 ounce beer (not 12, 12 beers). I also dranks a ton of water and did some sweating. I am also over 300 lbs. what are my chances of passing an EtG ua test the following Monday at 8:30 am

[AntC]

The data suggests you will pass. Please post your results when available. Thanks.

[odinn7]

Yes, please post your results so we can continue to encourage others to try and get away with drinking when they aren't supposed to.

[AntC]

The purpose of posting results is for knowledge. It is not to influence what others will do.

[odinn7]

Well, the way this site seems to work for people in these situations is that they like to see what they can get away with...how many that pass learn from it and abstain? I doubt the number is high. It seems more like they pass, and go for it again. Then others come along and see they passed and figure they are good to go as well. That's the way I see it here.

[Alty]

And even more tell them they'll pass based on articles they find online, and not actual research. Sadly, many of those people do pass, learn nothing, continue to fool the system, until something bad happens.

The girl my mom was in a rehabilitation hospital with (rehabilitation from surgery) was 18, hit by a drunk driver. She's basically a vegetable. The drunk driver that hit her was on probation, ordered to take ETG tests, and fooled them every time, because of people that helped him by telling him how much he could get away with. Sadly it took crippling someone for life to have him caught and stopped.

So by all means AntC, continue posting info that's not based on expert stats, only crap found on the internet, and by doing so, let's continue letting drunks get away with drinking. I mean really, they're only hurting themselves... wait, no, they're not!

I disrespectfully disagree with your post. Sorry, but I've had enough!

[AntC]

Alty,

Why even have this forum if we cannot honestly answer the questions asked ? I am certainly against drunk driving. I seriously doubt that telling an OP they will pass or fail is going to influence their decision to drink and drive. It would be nice if I had the power to prevent that, but I am not that important.

[smoothy]

Because it's a subject that was discussed by site management along with the experts and moderators and that was a decision that was made because so many people were abusing the intent of the site to find out exactly how much they can get away with gaming the system.

And NOT to get help doing the one things they should have been doing and not abusing the substance that in most cases they have been legally required to refrain from using at all do to their inability to use it without abusing it (as in the case of alcohol).

Which is how it was explained to me by the powers that be.

Knowing exactly how much they can use and exactly how long before a test..can only serve to further their knowledge of how much cheating they can get away with, and avoid detection of such cheating. It realy serves absolutely no other purpose.

While I am not in any position to speak on behalf of the powers that be, the existance of the furum is to aid people in staying clean...and to continue staying clean....not to make them be better at gaming the system (which is exactly what everyone with a substance abuse problem that is subject to random testing is doing when they continue to use).

[AntC]

Smoothy,

I understand and agree with your views. I am not trying to help anyone "game the system". I do not tell them any way to cheat or get around a test. I only post facts as to the limits of the tests that are questioned.

The reality is that it does not matter whether we answer that an OP will PASS or FAIL, they know the ultimate answer when they get their results back. THAT is what is likely to influence their future behavior. The answers that any of us give an OP may only affect their emotions for a short period, until the actual results are received. I really do not believe that answering "pass" or " fail" has any impact on whether an OP drinks or uses again.
Just my humble opinion.

[smoothy]

THey are more likely to abuse the substance in question (since it can be any of many)... if they have an idea of how much they can use and get away with it.

THe more likely they feel they can get away with it, the more they are going to do it.

And any use at all when such use is prohibited is detrimental to the goal of getting them off or it and keeping them off it. ("It" being whatever substance they have been abusing).

And the same holds true with other adictions.

Someone with a gambling addiction isn't doing themselves or anyone else any good if they keep gambleing , just by limiting themselves to $100 each time (random number). They have to avoid gambling all together...same with people that abuse any particular substance...legal or illegal.

There is also the fact that addicts are accomplished manipulators...saying or doing anything to continue doing or getting what they crave...helping them by giving them exactly what they need to know to allow them to continue, is in effect making that person giving that information an enabler.

When efforts at keeping them from doing it at all...is the goal that is needed. Its really no different that buying the alcoholic a bottle of booze, giving the addict a bag of heroin or a rock of meth, the out fo control gambler cash to go gamble some more, etc.

[AntC]

Again, I agree with you. The way that a user learns how much they can get away with is by their actual test results, not by an opinion on this site. If I tell an OP they are likely to pass a test they have already taken, but they actually fail, that test results is what will guide their future use.

I just do not see how giving someone an opinion, on a test they have already taken, and after they have already "used", has any impact on their future "use".

[odinn7]

This is more than answering "pass" or "fail"....When you give results, with time spans, more people will see that and think they can get away with the same thing.

So I want to go drinking this weekend but I am not allowed to....oh wait, let me see what kind of time span I need to be clear. Hmmm...says here that these people passed after 48 hours so let's see....if I drink on this day and my test is on this day, I should be able to get away with it.

[AntC]

If an addict/alcoholic has not taken the 1st step, they are very likely to use/drink again. Even the most thorough testing program will not keep them from their substance. Testing may alter their habits, but it will will not force them into Recovery.

It would be wonderful if all the people being monitored/tested by the courts/employers/Boards would realize that being in that situation means de facto that their life is unmanageable and they are/were powerless over drugs/alcohol.
The reality is that they have to make that decision , and nothing that I post will ensure or deter that.

[tiny6612]

Will 51 hours since the last drink and a cut off level at 500 be enough time to clear out the EtG remnants. Thanks for your answers