[talaniman]

Bill Summary & Status - 113th Congress (2013 - 2014) - S.744 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill | Immigration Policy Center

We seem to be waiting on the House. Oh that's controlled by REPUBLICANS.

[paraclete]

That is an excuse Tal, what you seem to be saying is there are no laws and you need new ones. Perhaps the Republicans like the laws the way they are, or maybe they are just being obstinate, either way as I have said before GOYA

[smoothy]

Tal... there is this basic legal requirement that all bills that require spending that will come from the federal buget to originate in the HOUSE... not the Senate.

And Prince Harry Ried has been blocking almost all of them writen, voted on and passed by the house since the Republicans won control of the house.....Right ...REPUBLICANS control the house....not the democraps. Harry and Barry the brothas of a different motha don't dictate to them.

[paraclete]

the politics of obstruction this is why they say congress is the opposite of progress

[smoothy]

Here it's the Senate that blocks any progress on any matter...

One man who has delusions of having godlike omnipotence who probibly wanks off to a poster of his messiah. Namely Harry Ried.

[paraclete]

Your Senate is not the only obstructionist body in the universe, it appears to be part of your particular bi-camerial form of government. This is what happens when the electorial system misaligns the distribution of power, which it seems is a deliberate part of the design to prevent progress or change. In order to overcome this you have to have a massive majority

[smoothy]

As it should be... it prevents meglomaniacs like Obama from behaving like an Emporer and ruling by decree.

But understand... the Bicameral part (house and Senate) are only 1/3 of the three branches of government that by the constitution are coequal. Not subservient to the other two. Legilative, Executive and Judicial branches.

[paraclete]

But you keep telling us he is ruling by decree, please make up your mind, either he is or he isn't. I understand the system of government we implemented a version of it a hundred years on and changed some of the less attractive parts, however we failed to understand that a Senate can be obstructionist no matter how it is structured

we also changed the executive structure so that the executive can be sacked triggering an election

[smoothy]

THe Justice Department is owned by Obama lock stock and barrel... they have absolutely no desire to uphold the laws or do anything to stem Obamas abuse of power.

Now as far as his "decree" he has been abusing... when a Republican wins the next election... one simple executive order can and will simple end every one of Obamas executive orders... because they are not laws... they don't have to be relealed like laws would have to be.

YOu have a parlamentary system and we don't... they might have similarities... but also have a lot of differences. And the ability to "obstruct" something is there by design... to slow something stupid from being railroaded through that would be difficult to change in the future.

THe mere fact some party does obstruct (The Democrats forget how often THEY pulled this stunt in the past) doesn't mean the fact the ability exists is bad... it serves a very good purpose, when its not abused.

And just not doing exectly what the other party demands be done... isn't obstructing. Refusing to let anything passed bu one side of the house see the light of day or even a vote PURELY because it was written by the other party... as Prince HArry has been doing, is what triely defines obstructionism.

If they were heard, and brought ot a vote and failed because of insufficient votes is one thing... refusing to allow them to get to a discussion or vote based on ONE persons prejudice... is another.

THe saving grace is When the Repbulicans win in a year and a half....Eric holder is going to be unemployed and likely brought up on charges, and hopefully so will Obama.....because neither one will be abusing their office to perpetrate the crimes any longer.

[paraclete]

yes smoothy a parliamentary system does have advantages, democracy is preserved for a longer time, it can be usurped by a massive majority allowing bad laws to be passed on a whim; to wit our Carbon Tax and Mining Tax as a well as a number of other bad decisions made by a socialist government that the bi-camerial system protects but it can stop some bad ideas

[smoothy]

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06...-escorted-u-s/


DHS to Pay for Illegal Immigrants to be Escorted into U.S.

Posted on June 19, 2014 by Paul Joseph Watson
Minors up to age of 17 to be brought in “with dignity and respect” at taxpayer expense






The Department of Homeland Security is set to pay for illegal minors up to the age of 17 to be escorted into the United States, according to a new solicitation posted at FedBizOpps.

Entitled 'Escort Services for Unaccompanied Alien Children', the solicitation reads;

ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] is seeking the services of a responsible vendor that shares the philosophy of treating all UAC with dignity and respect, while adhering to standard operating procedures and policies that allow for an effective, efficient, and incident free transport. The Contractor shall provide unarmed escort staff, including management, supervision, manpower, training, certifications, licenses, drug testing, equipment, and supplies necessary to provide on-demand escort services for non-criminal/non-delinquent unaccompanied alien children ages infant to 17 years of age, seven (7) days a week, 365 days a year. Transport will be required for either category of UAC or individual juveniles, to include both male and female juveniles. There will be approximately 65,000 UAC in total: 25% local ground transport, 25% via ICE charter and 50% via commercial air.

The post does not explain how ICE arrived at the figure of 65,000 children, nor does it clear up why 50% of the illegal minors are arriving via commercial air. The DHS intends to award the chosen vendor(s) 5 year fix priced contracts.The program to use taxpayer money to escort illegal minors into the United States dovetails with a recent Infowars exclusive concerning how South Texas Church groups are transporting countless illegals into the United States before letting them go “wherever they want to go.”Non-profit groups and churches are chauffeuring illegal immigrants from a bus station in McAllen, Texas before giving them temporary shelter and later releasing them onto the streets.Infowars reporters witnessed children and their mothers, primarily consisting of illegals from Guatemala, being picked up throughout the day by vans marked TFC (the Family Church), before being driven to nearby facilities.An employee of the organization admitted to Infowars that once the illegals are taken into temporary care, where they enjoy hot showers, food and a place to sleep, they are subsequently released and allowed to go “wherever they want to go.”It subsequently emerged that the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol was paying for bus tickets and vouchers in order to help the illegals be transported into the country.The revelation arrives in the aftermath of reports that the Rio Grande Valley has experienced an “endless surge” of immigrants attempting to illegally cross the border.Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.71
FOLLOW Paul Joseph Watson @ https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet*********************Paul Joseph Watson is the editor at large of Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com.

[paraclete]

hey what's the problem we pay illegal immigrants to go home

[smoothy]

If we were to pay anything... we should pay them to leave... not come here.

[Catsmine]

I have a truck. Can I be a GS-16 Coyote?

[smoothy]

How much would we get paid if we drive them all the way through and drop them off at the Canadian Border? I hear the Northern Territories could use some settlers.

[paraclete]

now you are thinking, just image trailer loads of new settlers for Canada, NK would get a kick out of that

[NeedKarma]

Sure, why not.

[paraclete]

there you are a cooperative solution

[tomder55]

note he agreed to dumping them in the northern territories ..... not Quebec province.

[paraclete]

so from one extreme to the other, I'm of the firm belief that migrants should go where the need exists not just to the established centres