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    Jun 12, 2014, 12:25 PM
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    Yeah... the criminal element hesistates pulling stunts against people who are likely to be armed... they may have no morals... but they aren't stupid. They know an armed victim is a greater threat to them than the police are. The police can get in trouble for using excesive force. A private citizen has the right to kill an attacker if they even FEEL like their life is threatened and particularly if they believe they are cornered.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 12:47 PM
    Hard to pull a gun fast enough to shoot at a drive-by shooter. Might hit a tire but not likely. We do have concealed carry here. One of my health-care rehab nurses back in Feb. took the course. She's packin' heat now, so watch out for a redhead named Gayleen if you visit my neck of the woods.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:05 PM
    So if they all had guns the situation would improve?
    Detroit's Police chief thinks so.
    Detroit Police Chief: Gun Owners Can Deter Crime - Officer.com
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:24 PM
    Glad they found one police chief that agrees. That's got to help the cause.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:31 PM
    And notice where he is...........
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:37 PM
    Yes... Detroit, Michigan the most LIBERAL city in the country... the Ciy that was once a great city that has been brought to its knees by liberals greed.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Yes... Detroit, Michigan the most LIBERAL city in the country... the Ciy that was once a great city that has been brought to its knees by liberals greed.
    ...and guns.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:45 PM
    No... it was all the overly generous union pensions and giveaways that drove businesses out of town... look at WHO are causing problems there... just like Chicago (its not the Italians any more), LA, NYC, DC, Miami, etc, etc...

    Same people dealing and using illegal drugs... jacking cars... committing home invasions.


    Here's a hint... They aren't Immigrants from Nepal. And most of them have criminal records.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    No... it was all the overly generous union pensions and giveaways that drove businesses out of town... look at what ethnic groups are causing problems there... just like CHicago, LA, NYC, DC, Miami, etc, etc...

    Same people dealing and using illegal drugs... jacking cars... committing home invasions.


    Here's a hint... THey aren't from Nepal. And most of them have criminal records.
    ...and they have guns.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:47 PM
    look at what ethnic groups are causing problems there
    Yes this is a recurring theme with you.. the ethnics. You're a good little republican.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:48 PM
    SO... you can't keep the drugs away from them either... Heroin, Coke... neither of those are home grown.
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    Jun 12, 2014, 03:49 PM
    It's a fact needkarma... I know its terribly inconvienient and quite telling that one group commits crimes at a rate of over three times that of any other group...but to a liberal...its not THEIR fault they are doing it....really, whos fault is it then?

    Never mind the fact...they are their own worst enemy.....they kill more of their own than every other group does combined and multiplied.

    Liberals are to blame for that.....before the 60's that same group had even higher moral standards than most of the other groups...now well over half of their babies are killed before birth, and over 75% that are born into are raised in single family homes.....whoes fault is that?

    I actually blame that on you....THats what the liberals pushed them into the last 50 years. Not conservatives.


    And I'll tell you what....Most of that same group I know agree with what I said....of course....they are mostly old old enough to have been raised BEFORE the decline. THey had a mother and father in the home....and they were raised to have respect for others, and punished when they didn't show it.....not be told growing up everyone owes then everything.

    Most of them have volunteered that in casual talking....
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    Jun 12, 2014, 04:28 PM
    So you think you need to do some ethic cleansing then?
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    Jun 12, 2014, 04:31 PM
    Reeducation is more like it... since so many of them never got educated the first time around.

    Or we can just bus them up and march them across the border into Canada. You should welcome them. As you don't see any serious behavioural problems as a group. Can't be any worse than all the Muslims you are allowing in wholesale. Maybe you can do a better job of teaching them how to fit into society than we did.
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    Jun 13, 2014, 02:40 AM
    Canada is a nice place. We like it here.
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    Jun 13, 2014, 03:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Yes... Detroit, Michigan the most LIBERAL city in the country... the Ciy that was once a great city that has been brought to its knees by liberals greed.

    Where he was imported from Maine because the Progressives couldn't keep the peace. Note in his bio he was a cop in LA and a staunch gun control advocate until he moved to Maine and saw how RESPONSIBLE adults use their tools.
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    Jun 13, 2014, 08:20 AM
    So you think you need to do some ethic cleansing then?
    We could definitely use some "ethic" cleansing. You can start in the White House, the occupants don't seem to have any ethics.
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    Jun 13, 2014, 08:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Sensible Gun Control



    Sensible Gun Control.
    Great Idea! Why didn’t I think of this?
    In 1865, a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
    In 1881, a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
    In 1975, a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
    In 1983, a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
    In 1984, James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
    In 1986, Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
    In 1990, James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
    In 1991, George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria.
    In 1995, James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
    In 1999, Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
    In 2001, a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
    In 2003, Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
    In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
    In 2010, a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner allegedly shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
    In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes allegedly went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
    In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
    In 2013, a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza allegedly shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.
    As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

    One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.
    Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.
    Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders (except as a target!).

    SOLUTION: Let’s make it illegal for Democrats to own guns.
    Best idea I’ve heard to date!
    Ok so now you have identified the problem and a democrat wants to be part of the solution, so let him. I don't know some people just don't get it

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