[paraclete]

You know how illegals get a job, they are prepared to work for low wages and put up with unsafe conditions, crowded housing, etc. They do the jobs others don't want. Would your older people take on those jobs, maybe, but maybe not. You haven't got it if you want to say, well that might be all right someplace else but not here. Where I come from we talk about a two speed economy, but I think you have a half speed economy where half the population are standing still. You are lost in the mystique of what a wonderful place this is, you can't see that for a big percentage of the population this isn't so, they are not really sharing in the good times.

This is what you get when you place youth above being inclusive you like the young because they can be exploited into working long hours chasing the carrot and you say if you can't make enough at one job get a second job when millions are out of work, The way the economy should work is you can make enough out of one job so someoneelse can have that other job and older workers should be respected and valued

[smoothy]

That only applies if someone has enough work experience at a job to be worth that higher pay.

Nobody straight out of school has that experience because they can't do the same work someone with 10+ years experience does... and as a result they don't deserve the same pay until they do.

[talaniman]

Nobody straight from high school gets the same pay as a person that's been there and learned from experience. No one I know has even said such a thing. But in a tight job market, you take what you can get. 4 applicants for every job doesn't cut it. Workers subsidized by tax payers instead of the JOB doesn't cut it either.

[tomder55]

patent phonies. Shill for a higher minimum wage and then champion illegals coming in to do the jobs.

[paraclete]

noone expects youth to be paid the same wage as more experienced workers. That is the strawman argument just as the excuse that a higher minimum wage is an excuse to attract migrant workers is a strawman argument. Actually I think your hollowmen have been working overtime thinking up these shell arguments

[tomder55]

no one expects youth to be paid the same wage as more experienced workers

There is no different wage scale for youth that I am aware of here . And my argument about immigration is quite valid . With a wink and a nod ,both the Dems and the Repubics have exploitation of immigrants on their mind. I've been told many times on these pages that I would pay a higher price for goods and services if these immigrants weren't doing the crop picking ,dish cleaning and car washing . So what are these advocates of higher min wage saying ? Do they want more illegals to come in to work under wage scale ? Or do they want higher prices ?

[talaniman]

How about letting profiteers pay their workers so I don't have to. Big business exploits cheap labor any way they can, be they illegal, or legal.

[speechlesstx]

No more pork pie, bacon or sausage for some British students, instead they can have halal meat.

Parents fury as pork sausages are banned from the school menu and replaced with halal meat | Mail Online

Cue the liberal outrage.

[cdad]

I wasnt aware that the Brits were forcing religion down anyones throat until I read what Halal food actually is.

Halal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[paraclete]

and so they should be outraged why should traditional foods give over to muslim foods just because they exist

[speechlesstx]

I wasnt aware that the Brits were forcing religion down anyones throat until I read what Halal food actually is.

Halal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yep, that's why I'm waiting for the liberal outrage. Governments can't be forcing religion down anyone's throat, can they?

[paraclete]

well who knows but I know most of the meat that comes out of our abbatoirs is halal anyway just because of the export market, incidious those muslims

[speechlesstx]

According to the White House obamacare signups were lower in February than January because January has fewer days.

That explains a lot.

[smoothy]

According to the White House obamacare signups were lower in February than January because January has fewer days.

That explains a lot.

Apparently we know where the rocket scientists AREN'T working these days.

[Tuttyd]

Yep, that's why I'm waiting for the liberal outrage. Governments can't be forcing religion down anyone's throat, can they?

I guess that would depend on what is explicit or implicit in the British Constitution.

I would also imagine their constitution is not as explicit in this area as your constitution. A bit of research for someone?

[paraclete]

way I hear it Obamacare signups have skyrocketted after Obama did a between the ferns show

[talaniman]

It come to this,

Cleaning Technology Needs to Catch up to Fracking

Fracking produces very large volumes of waste water and, because of the concentration of NORM it contains, a permit is required to manage it. As yet, there is no economic way to clean up the waste water for drinking or irrigation purposes, but other dissolved minerals and rock debris can be removed to allow its reuse to frack additional wells. Reusing flowback like this minimizes the volume of water used in fracking, but does not avoid the problem of having large volumes of radioactively contaminated waste water that needs to be managed.

Report: Radioactive waste from fracking plagues Ohio - Ellwood City Ledger: Energy

A 2011 U.S. Geological Survey report by research geologist, Mark Engle, found that millions of barrels of wastewater from unconventional fracked wells in Pennsylvania and vertical wells in New York were 3,609 times more radioactive than the federal limit for drinking water and 300 times more radioactive than a Nuclear Regulatory Commission limit for industrial discharges to water.
In Pennsylvania, officials are studying the issue, too.
The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection announced in January the agency's plan to study radiation in natural gas drilling wastewater as part of a one-year study.
In April, the DEP began testing for radioactivity in waste products from natural gas well drilling as part of the study. In addition to analyzing wastewater from fracking, the study also will analyze radioactivity in drill cuttings, drilling mud, drilling equipment, treatment solids and sediments at well pads, wastewater treatment and disposal facilities and landfill leachate.

Radioactive oil patch waste on the loose in N.D. : Energy News

Safe disposal
Where the waste should go, if it is radioactive, is to an approved waste disposal facility — and there are none in North Dakota, Tillotson said. The closest are in Colorado, Utah and Idaho.
Next General Solutions has about 30 sites where it has set up lined and sealed containers to collect such materials as filter socks that are then transported to approved facilities. Most of those sites are at saltwater disposal wells.
Rhea figures maybe 20 percent of the radioactive waste is being handled the way it should be by conscientious companies.
That other 80 percent? Good question, he said.
Tillotson said the department knows some radioactive waste is properly handled. “Where the rest of it is going, we have no idea,” he said.

Socks that glow in the dark??

[paraclete]

fracking releasing radioactivity seems to be a problem in more than one place, what I want to know is why they are drilling in areas where there are known uranium deposits

[tomder55]

not going to read the links . Question... do they identify what the type of "radioactive " material ? Everyone here in NY potentially have 'radioactive ' homes because of radon. Well if we can't dig wells because of radon concerns then none of us would be able to drink water unless it came from a lake in the Catskills .

[talaniman]

If you read the links, your questions would be answered.