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    #101

    Feb 19, 2014, 02:36 PM
    Republicans, conservatives and the TParty don't have the votes to do anything but holler foul, and obstruct as we come up on the midterm elections and certainly don't represent the majority view. That could change in November, 2014, but I doubt it.
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    #102

    Feb 19, 2014, 02:56 PM
    there is a problem Tal of when is a majority a minority and when is a minority a majority, bi-cameral government creates this nexus and you seem to have invented tri-cameral goverment which creates even greater problems when parties can't agree on a course of action
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    #103

    Feb 19, 2014, 03:18 PM
    There are 360 MILLION people here to govern and making some happy always means some are not. Yes it makes progress slow, but it also gives some time to adjust or catch up.

    And some will always holler. That's why we have elections every two years and that's just the process. No process of human governance on earth is perfect.
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    #104

    Feb 19, 2014, 04:02 PM
    Yes we know that Tal, yours is not a peacable population dispite the appearances. I do think you make things a little more difficult than necessary because of the volatility of the politics but be thankful you do not have to solve the issues in the manner of the Ukraine and Thailand since this is where that volatility leads
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    #105

    Mar 5, 2014, 02:34 PM
    Remember the guy who said he didn't like Clarence Thomas because he's married to a white woman? He has this little gem to say now...

    A debate Tuesday over a bill to ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected turned to race after Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin, R-Indian Springs, compared her bill to Brown vs. the Board of Education.

    But during the debate, Rep. Alvin Holmes, D-Montgomery, said that his Republican colleagues would support abortion if their daughters were impregnated by black men.


    "Ninety-nine percent of the all of the white people in here are going to raise their hand that they are against abortion," he said. "On the other hand, 99 percent of the whites who are sitting in here now, if their daughter got pregnant by a black man, they are going to make their daughter have an abortion."
    Where do you Dems find these gems?

    Meanwhile, Dingy Harry, while taking a break from calling the Kochs un-American criminals from the Senate floor hinted that the defeat of Obama's Civil Rights nominee was based on racism. Yeah, maybe he wasn't "light skinned" enough for the 7 other Dems that voted no.
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    #106

    Mar 6, 2014, 02:34 PM
    We obviously have this week's meme. Issa's treatment of Cummings was racist and "mean" according to Jesse Jackson.

    Ed Schultz: Everyone in South Carolina Hates Obama... Unless They're Black

    And it's come to this, being a victim of racism makes you fat.
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    #107

    Mar 6, 2014, 05:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Remember the guy who said he didn't like Clarence Thomas because he's married to a white woman? He has this little gem to say now...



    Where do you Dems find these gems?

    Meanwhile, Dingy Harry, while taking a break from calling the Kochs un-American criminals from the Senate floor hinted that the defeat of Obama's Civil Rights nominee was based on racism. Yeah, maybe he wasn't "light skinned" enough for the 7 other Dems that voted no.
    7 Dems defected to defeat Debo Adegbile . Race was not the issue ;and Reid and the emperor know it . The one issue that killed the nomination was that Adegbile defended a man who executed police officer Daniel Faulkner .I'm sure he is a fine lawyer ,and under other circumstances may have been a good fit for the job. BUT ;even though Mumia Abu Jamal certainly deserved legal representation ;that doesn't mean his lawyer is entitled to a senior position in the Justice Dept for that defense.
    Kudos to the Dems who crossed the aisle ...... Casey, Donnelly, Heitkamp, Manchin, Pryor, Walsh ,and Coons . Most of them of course are either from a Red state or a swing state . But Coons is from solid Blue Delaware ;and is not up for reelection. Best guess is that his state is close enough to Philly where the murder took place ,and his constituents remember .
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    #108

    Mar 7, 2014, 09:07 AM
    And this week's meme continues...

    Harkin: DOJ Civil Rights Nominee Would Have Been Confirmed If He Was White


    Well then, tell it to the Dems that voted him down. And so far my personal favorite for the week, from about 100 miles south of me...

    Texas politicians are recoiling after a prominent Lubbock Democrat accused Republican candidate for governor Greg Abbott of “piñata politics” in a bigoted tirade and allegedly disparaged Abbott’s Latina wife.

    Greg Abbott came into our house uninvited, wanting to somehow give the illusion that the Lubbock County Hispanic community is supportive,” Lubbock city councilman Victor Hernandez said after Abbott visited the West Texas town and held a campaign rally at a Mexican restaurant. “If you want to come into my house, the first thing you have to do is to see me — see me as a person, see me as a human being, see me as a fellow Texan.”

    Hernandez, who chairs the local chapter Tejano Democrats, is furious about Abbott’s appeal to Hispanic voters in his city. Even though Abbott was met by a crowd of supporters at Jimenez Bakery and Restaurant last week, Hernandez branded the stop as “offensive” to Hispanics and “beyond any sense of decency.”

    He criticized Abbott and Republican candidates for not clearing their visit with local Hispanic group

    Obviously Abbott married his Latina wife 33 years ago so she could be a "prop" in his campaign for governor. What is it with you libs coming unhinged about or mocking conservative mixed families? Or do you just believe it's impossible for someone who isn't white to be both a conservative and a genuine minority? And since when do we need your permission to reach out? It's not YOUR house you bigoted thug.
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    #109

    Mar 7, 2014, 09:21 AM
    Since approximately 60% of pregnancies blacks have are terminated through abortion. now.. the lefties apparently are bound and determined to raise those percentages significantly higher because thats not high enough for them.

    So who is group that actually are the racists here... the Dems who want 100% of the blacks babies aborted... or the conservatives who want none aborted?

    If you tried to force MOST people in any specific ethnic group to have abortions... it can and would be considered genocide. Unless of course a Liberal is behind it apparently.
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    #110

    Mar 7, 2014, 09:46 AM
    You are as usual in error since most dems/libs/and reasonable republican agree the way to eliminate abortions is through education and contraception as well you know from other forums.

    Rich and well to do females have gynecologists they visit regularly, and birth control options, poorer or less educated females do not. They also have insurance that poor people do not have. Educating one to their options and opportunities is the key to preventing abortions, given the fact if they really want one they will do it themselves, or turn to dangerous alternatives.

    If your idea to PREVENT abortions by taking away, or not recognizing those very important factors of education, options, opportunities, and MEANS, then I totally reject both your premise, and methods, as erroneous, and ineffective. I have stated I am as against abortions as you are, except you make obstacles and I believe in solutions to make them NOT necessary.
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    #111

    Mar 7, 2014, 09:54 AM
    City report: 55.8 percent of African-American babies aborted in NYC - Arlington Political Buzz | Examiner.com

    But then Democrats really DO want MORE aborted than that...they are upset that more aren't being aborted...and that more can't easily get aborted which would only serve to increace those percentages.

    THey have options....use protection, or abstain.

    Education...they get a free education..if they choose to not make the most of it, thats on them...they are no less capible of learning than any other ethnic group.

    Means.... Condoms are cheap....if they have money for $200+ Nikes and cell pones...they can afford birth control.

    Opportunities....they have the same opportunities as everyone else. Speak proper english (few speak a second language) ebonics is street slang...not a language.and dress like a human and they would get jobs. Meaning your pants go around your waist...not your knees.
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    #112

    Mar 7, 2014, 09:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    So who is group that actually are the racists here... the Dems who want 100% of the blacks babies aborted... or the conservatives who want none aborted?
    Now, now, Rep Alvin Holmes-D of Alabama said 99% of white people would force their daughter to have an abortion if she got pregnant by a black man.

    But yes, these Dems are right on top of everything that "disproportionately affects" minorities EXCEPT abortion.
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    #113

    Mar 7, 2014, 10:12 AM
    Ignoring the other 58%, 31,000 black females exercised their rights to an abortion. Of a 2 million Black population over all. Nowhere do you site how these abortions were done, where, or even the socio-economic status of those black woman so such a generic number as to be devoid of factual specifics.

    Abortions are legal within the law and a choice within specific parameters whether you or I agree with them or NOT. If its not your baby, it's not or choice.
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    #114

    Mar 7, 2014, 10:18 AM
    We all know the objective of the democrats are to reach 100% abortion rates in the minorities by any means possible.

    Any minority group that votes democrat probibly deserves a 100% abortion rate anyway.
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    #115

    Mar 7, 2014, 10:21 AM
    That's a highly subjective broad statement that has no basis in facts, and ridicules to boot..
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    #116

    Mar 7, 2014, 10:24 AM
    Has every basis in fact... Democrats want free convenient abortions anytime anyone asks even for 12 year olds... no matter how long after conception occurred.


    Free sterilization is cheaper... it only has to be done once... I support that... it saves those of us expected to pay for their laziness and unwillingness to use birth control.
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    #117

    Mar 7, 2014, 10:37 AM
    If you have links to your facts I would gladly blow them apart as loony rantings. :)

    I am often disturbed though by the conflict of under aged girls who have no guidance, support, or the love of family and undertake such actions and decisions alone. Its not easy on those wanting to help either.
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    #118

    Mar 7, 2014, 10:42 AM
    So... I need links or my comments aren't facts...and the links would be discounted as bunk anyway, but if I was a liberal... anything I say would be considered irrefutable fact... and any request for proof would be considered racism, and any links posted would be considered irrefutable fact....even if they claim Alien abductions are real, and Bigfoot lives in Central Park?
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    Mar 7, 2014, 10:46 AM
    Not by me it wouldn't. Everybody gets fact checked in my book!


    Trust but verify :D
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    #120

    Mar 7, 2014, 10:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Ignoring the other 58%, 31,000 black females exercised their rights to an abortion. Of a 2 million Black population over all. Nowhere do you site how these abortions were done, where, or even the socio-economic status of those black woman so such a generic number as to be devoid of factual specifics.

    Abortions are legal within the law and a choice within specific parameters whether you or I agree with them or NOT. If its not your baby, it's not or choice.
    Case in point.

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