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Jan 20, 2014, 12:09 PM
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We all know race is but one factor, more important to some than others. Fact is republican lawmakers in Washington have lower numbers than the Prez, or the democrats, on a national level.
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Jan 20, 2014, 01:40 PM
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OK, but how do you get lower approval numbers because of people who didn't like him in the first place? You don't, his drop in approval has nothing to do with race.
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Jan 20, 2014, 02:26 PM
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the Lame Duck
all the drop in approval is measuring is the poor perceived performance of government. perhaps it is a measure of his ability to convince his political opponents of the wisdom of his program or the ineptitude of his advisers. He is destined to spend six years of his presidency as a lame duck
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Jan 20, 2014, 02:29 PM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
all the drop in approval is measuring is the poor perceived performance of government. perhaps it is a measure of his ability to convince his political opponents of the wisdom of his program or the ineptitude of his advisers. He is destined to spend six years of his presidency as a lame duck
Yep, but nothing is ever his fault. "Damn that Bush, damn those racists, damn those bitter clingers, damn those Republicans and Tea Partiers and Fox News - if it weren't for them everything would AWESOME."
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Jan 20, 2014, 02:35 PM
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There is only one thing that might be his fault, the ACA but because there wasn't a proper path for the passage of the legislation where the bugs could be debated and disposed of he can blame others. The opposition to his tenue and program has been very effective, but he is afflicted with the chinese curse; to live in interesting times or pehaps in this case to lead in interesting times and I can only reflect that perhaps wiser heads left him to it
To use a racing term; one out, one back and could that describe Kerry
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Jan 21, 2014, 07:51 PM
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Satan has more favorible poll numbers than Obama has. THe voters that put him into office have awoken from their commas.
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Jan 21, 2014, 08:11 PM
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Come on guys, stop pretending you give a crap about diversity, racial harmony, tolerance and sensitivity, because you're full of BS if you can't condemn this ignorant bullsh*t.
Speech, all I can give about that is a crap, it is an agenda to subvert. I'm not against minorities persee, they can take their place in society without getting special treatment
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Jan 21, 2014, 08:14 PM
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Democrats are a coalition of minority groups, made possible by republican BS!! They run from what you guys are cooking.
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Jan 21, 2014, 09:49 PM
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hey tal I'm not cooking anything, I'm very middle of the road. If you are saying they are running from responsibility, I can buy that. They always have a reason why they can't succeed and it isn't their "fault". I'm not saying discrimination doesn't happen but it happens much less than they might think. The election of Obama proves what I'm saying, maybe his race worked for him, maybe it did not, but I expect it will be a cold day in hell before another "black" man strides the stage, been there, done that
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Jan 22, 2014, 03:37 AM
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here we go again
Let's now play the race card in a different form. How stupid can you get? well I don't know if there is a reference point but we may just have found it
Anger in NT community after circumcision rite ends with three boys airlifted to hospital - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
call it race, call it culture, I don't know where you draw the line, but criminal neglegence must come pretty close. if this happened in my community there would be criminal charges, probably GBH, but because some backward people of, well let's say, ethnic origin, are involved it's culture.. We have outlawed the islamic practice of female circumcision, we should also outlaw the ritual circumcision of males, no matter who we might offend whether it be jewish, islamic or indigenous. You want it done, get a doctor. I seriously think some ethnic or cultural practices in a modern society should be outlawed, and this isn't sour grapes it is common sense and to think that supposedly responsible public employees are involved...................
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Jan 22, 2014, 05:33 AM
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Democrats are a coalition of minority groups, made possible by republican BS!! They run from what you guys are cooking
Obviously you agree with the NAACP. A black can't be black unless he carries your water. ThInk about it.
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Jan 22, 2014, 08:22 AM
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You do the same thing to those that YOU want to carry YOUR water. But don't in your view. Maybe not you personally but your side certainly does. Doesn't change the FACT that minorities groups run from your side in great numbers.
Nor the TParty push for more far right wing representation. It's so far been easier locally, than nationally. You have a right to rail against liberals and progressives and the NAACP, and we can rail against YOUR side, individuals and groups. It's the American way.
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Jan 22, 2014, 11:58 AM
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You do the same thing to those that YOU want to carry YOUR water.
Really? That would be fun to see you prove, but this has nothing to do with criticizing our own as in alleged conservatives not acting like conservatives. It's about race and gender, something you're BORN with. Only YOUR side disparages blacks and women as not black or female enough if they dare not think like you - while PRETENDING to be all about diversity.
But don't in your view. Maybe not you personally but your side certainly does. Doesn't change the FACT that minorities groups run from your side in great numbers
I'd rather maintian my integrity than sucker and lie my way into making minorities and women slaves to my party and government. THat's what you do.
Nor the TParty push for more far right wing representation. It's so far been easier locally, than nationally. You have a right to rail against liberals and progressives and the NAACP, and we can rail against YOUR side, individuals and groups. It's the American way.
So you do claim the right to be racist when it suits you. I knew it.
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Jan 22, 2014, 12:48 PM
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The Democrat party can't possibly be more leftist than the Current President.
JFK is spinning in his grave in Arlington over what the Democrat party has become.
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Jan 22, 2014, 04:46 PM
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I don't think you have clear left/right distinctions over there except at the margins. I cannot see Obama as leftist just because he supports health care or regulation of firearms or because he has spent too much money. He isn't a warmonger, that is to be applauded. You have some big issues that need to be dealt with and until you have bipartisan support it doesn't matter which way he leans
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Jan 22, 2014, 04:50 PM
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THose are both policies ONLY embraced by the far left...
Hitler was a gun control proponent... history shows why.
Obama IS a warmonger...more people died in wars under his reign than under Bush....he is also makes drunken sailors look fiscally responsible.
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Jan 22, 2014, 04:56 PM
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WHat did those fools do... emergency foreskin reattachment? Talk about Frankenwienie!!!!!!!! Cripes... circumcision doesn't scar men for life... and it doesnhurt their ability to have sex in any way shape or form... and as such its very, VERY different than female circumcision which is meant to deprive the woman from getting any enjoyment during sex so some socially impared (usually muslim) mental midget won't have to fear his wife is getting her jollies with the guy down the street that pays her attention.
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Jan 22, 2014, 05:32 PM
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smoothy you are a historical revisionist. Hitler was not far left but far right, you forget he opposed communism and used a capitalist industrial base to further his warmongering
Obama hasn't started any wars, he is working to end the wars started by others, such as George Bush
Obama didn't cause the GFC he inherited it from Bush
The things you blame him for where committed by Bush and are in response to the way Bush handled issues
You can blame Obama for the ACA, you can blame Obama for QE but you can't blame him for those other things
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Jan 22, 2014, 05:38 PM
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No I doubt that, stem the bleeding would be my guess. What did they do, fail to realise young men arn't children, fail to understand anatomy, fail to care. As I said you want to do these things, get a doctor and do the job properly. I think other forms of abuse in initiation should be outlawed too, it is time we came in from the stone age and its thinking, whether that be indigenous, muslim or anyone else who thinks mutilation is fun
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