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    #321

    Jan 12, 2014, 09:06 AM
    What got no point, just a rant huh? Okay I can understand it. I rant too!! :D
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    #322

    Jan 12, 2014, 12:30 PM
    Yes, you're very good at it.
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    #324

    Jan 12, 2014, 02:31 PM
    Reading the article I think it is pretty obvious the guy isn't the full quid.
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    #325

    Jan 12, 2014, 02:42 PM
    "If corporations are people, how come nobody is going to jail"

    Ex, I imagine the answer is that in order to individuals of a corporation to go to gaol it would need to be shown that an individual, or individuals were directly responsible for a criminal action. However, in reality it appear to be a rare occurrence.

    That's the beauty of corporate personhood, the company gets all of the advantage of being an individual person while at the same time shirks the important responsibilities.

    I am seriously considering turning myself into a corporation.
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    #326

    Jan 12, 2014, 03:35 PM
    Reading the article I think it is pretty obvious the guy isn't the full quid.
    Some people seem to have a knack in trying very hard to make stupid people famous.
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    #327

    Jan 12, 2014, 04:20 PM
    Yes but tutt is right a few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there
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    #328

    Jan 12, 2014, 06:20 PM
    If corporations are people, how come nobody is going to jail?
    it's obvious , the Justice Dept and local DAs are much better at the shakedown game than making a case stick. Manhattan's DA Cyrus Vance has only brought a criminal case against 1 bank ; a Chinese bank named Abacus.JPMorganChase, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and Citigroup — are all headquartered in Manhattan. So if the lefties in power want to keep the gravy train ,they have to go easy on the prosecutions .
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    #329

    Jan 13, 2014, 09:40 AM
    Reuters, in nod to stupidity, discovers the Pope is Catholic.

    Pope, in nod to conservatives, calls abortion 'horrific'

    Obviously this doesn't fit the "progressive" Pope narrative so teaching Catholic doctrine is now just a "bone tossing" exercise.
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    #330

    Jan 13, 2014, 10:02 AM
    Progressive's agree with the pope on some things, and disagree on others. So what, aren't conservatives the same way? What's new about the pope saying abortions are bad, that's what all the popes have said. What's the big deal?
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    #331

    Jan 13, 2014, 10:32 AM
    It's isn't about the Pope, it's about Reuters treatment of the Pope. It's an ignorant article, The Pope's words are not something to be bent to support the media's preferred narrative, condeming abortion as he has always done is not a political bone to toss to conservatives.
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    #332

    Jan 13, 2014, 10:47 AM
    Fair enough.
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    #333

    Jan 13, 2014, 11:54 AM
    It's come to this, Medicare payments for "penis pumps" have "swelled" in recent years.

    Not that I'm one to put a damper on an erection, but the federal government can't even buy them at retail price.

    The federal government paid more than double the retail price for VES, the Department of Health and Human Services IG found. Medicare prices for the systems, the report said, “remain grossly excessive compared with the amounts that non-Medicare payers pay.”
    Because no one needs a penis pump to give the government the shaft I suppose.
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    #334

    Jan 13, 2014, 01:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's come to this, Medicare payments for "penis pumps" have "swelled" in recent years.

    Not that I'm one to put a damper on an erection, but the federal government can't even buy them at retail price.



    Because no one needs a penis pump to give the government the shaft I suppose.

    Well obviously. You double the price you double the enjoyment. Everyone knows that.
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    #335

    Jan 13, 2014, 04:29 PM
    Overpaying for stuff has been going on for decades. Even I sold the gov stuff at inflated prices.
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    #336

    Jan 13, 2014, 05:17 PM
    yes corruption has a price
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    #337

    Jan 13, 2014, 06:38 PM
    Has anyone considered the impact of corruption on the government deficit over time, if corruption had a 10% impact on the value of government contracts that would mean a $50 billion dollar hit just on the federal government expenditures alone. But corruption goes far further than that when the impact of the GFC corrupt practices are taken into account. The mortgage agencies Freddie and Fanny returned $40 billion to the federal coffers in December. Stamp out corruption and you stamp out the deficit.
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    #338

    Jan 13, 2014, 09:34 PM
    Oh I have no doubt the shenanigans of both government and the private sector, and consider military contracts, and retired military and government officials who go to work for the companies they wrote laws and regulations for as lobbyist, its no wonder that the government for the people represents everybody but the people.

    It definitely needs cleaning up.
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    #339

    Jan 13, 2014, 09:46 PM
    no only is it not government for the people it is not government by the people, when Lincoln spoke of those concepts he was speaking about opposing the interests that tried to entrench cronyism and privilege in the government, those who had tried to enforce slavery. Actually you would have been better off if you had let them succeed, they were a backwards agrian society.
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    #340

    Jan 13, 2014, 09:50 PM
    YEP.

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