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    #481

    Dec 20, 2013, 02:55 PM
    without regard to the security of American's personal information
    . How can you talk about security of information when the NSA controls your lives and probes every oriface
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    #482

    Dec 21, 2013, 04:12 AM
    without regard to the security of American's personal information.
    Ha! That ship sailed long ago, during the Bush admin.
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    #483

    Dec 21, 2013, 04:55 AM
    What they don't realise is they live in a police state, theSA is the modern version of the Gestapo
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    #484

    Dec 21, 2013, 05:59 AM
    Ha! That ship sailed long ago, during the Bush admin.
    And exploded under the emperor, but no you don't get to blame Bush for Obamacare. He had nothing to do with it and did not build a website with no security to protect our personal data. I suspect you know the difference.
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    #485

    Dec 21, 2013, 06:12 AM
    Too bad that's not true Speech the truth is that you got part of the story that somebody (Issa?) leaked to the press. The rest of it was that the same witness also testified that the upgrades had fixed the problem and far exceeded expectations.

    I will provide a link when I figure this new upgrade out :(
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    #486

    Dec 21, 2013, 06:23 AM
    So apparently CBS is also a right-wing mouthpiece. The testimony is the testimony, no one seriously doubts it went live with huge security holes and now we know the regime perjured itself again by saying no one knew of the risks.

    Re: the new site, Love the auto save, very helpful on a tablet. Miss a functional profile page and being taken to the last page after posting.
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    #487

    Dec 21, 2013, 06:29 AM
    Question of the day, if the squeal and repeal crowd is so wrong and obamacare so great, why is Obama systematically repealing it himself?
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    #488

    Dec 21, 2013, 07:09 AM
    My point was you didn't get the whole testimony. There was a lot more he didn't reveal. That was intention cherry picking to make his point, and mislead. I have already given links to the law that gives flexibility to make changes (tweaks) by the HHS, and the process and its hardly a repeal, and so far the delay is defined and clear and so are the reasons. To fix glitch as they go.

    Re: the new site, Love the auto save, very helpful on a tablet. Miss a functional profile page and being taken to the last page after posting.
    10-4
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    #489

    Dec 21, 2013, 07:20 AM
    Dude, put the Koolaid down. Sebelius lied, period and you don't get to make it up as you go, especially without regard to the consequences. All obama is doing is covering his a$$ again for the current news cycle workout any thought to how it further complicates the situation. The sheer audacity of lying to us about keeping our doctors and insurance then telling us we can keep our plans after they've been canceled is breathtaking, not to mention unworkable.
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    #490

    Dec 27, 2013, 07:24 AM
    The emperor symbolically signed up for Obamacare this week. He signed up for an individual bronze plan that he'll never need to use(As CIC ,his medical is covered by the military ) . His plan calls for him to shell out $400 a month without subsidies.
    So how did he do it ? Did he sign up on the web ? Nah ;he couldn't navigate it . So he sent his staffers to the D.C. exchange to do it for him. Evidently they couldn't risk his personal information being compromised ;or the web couldn't verify his identity .(seen that show before ) .
    The emperor has much in common with Kelly Weaver .
    Kelly Weaver, a substitute teacher in Michigan, said her application has been stuck in the identity verification process since mid-October.

    "I don't know what they're fixing," says Weaver, who considers herself a health-law supporter. "I'm definitely noticing different fonts but that doesn't really fix my situation."

    Weaver has submitted identity verification information online and over the phone. She has uploaded copies of her driver's license to the Web site. When she's called the customer service center, she's twice been told she'll receive a call back in two to five business days. Both times, she never got a return phone call.

    "I don't know what to do next," Weaver says. "When I talk to them on the phone, they say we'll have to get back to you. But its really, 'we're getting you off the phone because other people are waiting in the queue.' "
    HealthCare.gov finally works — for some people
    The difference is that Kelly doesn't have a personal staff to go to the exchange to 'symbolically' sign her up.
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    #491

    Dec 27, 2013, 08:38 AM
    Hello again,

    Yawwwwwn... The site WILL be fixed. People will BUY insurance. They want it. YOU have it. Game over. Next.

    excon
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    #492

    Dec 27, 2013, 08:53 AM
    Ah, if only it would blow over as simply as that. Dream on, the nightmare will continue.
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    #493

    Dec 27, 2013, 09:11 AM
    The insurance companies will eventually process the applications. Like UPS, and FedEx are still delivering packages. The government ain't perfect, neither is the private sector.
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    #494

    Dec 27, 2013, 09:26 AM
    At least UPS and Fedex can blame weather and strong demand unlike dysfunctional portals and changing the rules daily.
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    #495

    Dec 27, 2013, 10:25 AM
    unlike dysfunctional portals and changing the rules daily
    Hello again, Steve:

    First off, you complain about the site NOT working, and then you complain about the FIXES Obama does. You say he doesn't have the authority to "fix" it. He has to go back to congress. But, of course, YOUR method won't FIX anything.. It'll DESTROY it.

    So, let's call a spade a spade.. You don't wanna fix it. You HATE it. You HATE everything about it (except the benefits). Oh, you'll TAKE them, alright, if you're forced.. But, EVEN you, after BENEFITING from these BENEFITS, won't wanna give 'em up either..

    Yawwwwwwn... Next.

    excon
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    #496

    Dec 27, 2013, 12:59 PM
    You aren't even interested in hearing about any fix short of single payer so spare me the pious grandstanding. It is notable though how little concern you have over the president's unconstitutional power grabs. I bet the tune changes when a Republican follows his precedent.
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    #497

    Dec 27, 2013, 01:02 PM
    SCOTUS has ruled, so have the people, get over it, and good luck on the next election.
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    #498

    Dec 27, 2013, 04:25 PM
    Okie dokie. If you say so.
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    #499

    Dec 27, 2013, 08:29 PM
    SCOTUS hasn't ruled on all aspects .They haven't as an example ruled on the 14th Amendment equal protection clause violations of the emperor's waivers .
    They haven't ruled on all the 1st amendment religious freedom violations .They haven't ruled on the 2nd amendment violations of a defacto back door gun registry by doctors . They haven't ruled on the
    4th and 5th amendment violations of the Fed Government having access to your bank accounts to make sure that you are paying your Obamacare premiums .They haven't ruled on the 8th amendment violation of excess fines. And I'm sure there's more if I think hard enough. Since there is this stupid 'standing' rule ;no cases can be heard until there is an injured person who has standing to bring a case. That means the law has to be enacted before many of the cases coming are filed .
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    #500

    Dec 28, 2013, 10:49 AM
    Maybe you'll have insurance, maybe you won't.

    Officials: 16,000 Iowans should reapply for health care | Local News - Home

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