[excon]

Hello:

Our right wing friends say FOX kicks MSNBC's butt because they're RIGHT. I say it's because MSNBC just sucks at television... And, they ain't too good at radio either. I don't often quote media, but this Salon article is right on. Yeah, I know. It's Salon, but you'll LOVE it. They BASH MSNBC.

MSNBC, we’re told all the time, is the liberal Fox News. That’s reductive and stupid. It isn’t. MSNBC isn’t the liberal Fox News for two very important reasons: It usually demonstrates a greater respect for the truth than Fox News, and it’s not as good as Fox News. It’s not as good at being liberal as Fox is at being conservative. Fox is rigidly ideologically consistent, with its “straight news” programs echoing the same talking points and pushing the same slanted stories as its opinion shows. While there’s no doubt that MSNBC is more unapologetically liberal than it used to be, it’s still all over the place, with a conservative anchoring its flagship morning show, objective Beltway “straight news” proponents like Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell dominating in the daytime, and weekends full of … prison shows. But more important, it’s not as good as Fox at being compelling TV, which is why millions more people watch Fox every day.

Plus, the graphics and music suck.

excon

[paraclete]

tell someone who cares. television exists for entertainment, beyond that we know it's crap

[Wondergirl]

MSNBC hosts talk too fast (reading from teleprompters?), have the same schtick on and review the same stories every hour, and can't seem to get creative (except for O'Donnell's KIND fund reports/videos and Rachel's drink making).

[speechlesstx]

Lol!

[NeedKarma]

You mean Jesus and Santa aren't white? LOL at Fox.

[paraclete]

well Jesus is suntaned and santa doesn't exist, so no!

[NeedKarma]

Jesus would be middle eastern.

[speechlesstx]

The whole "white Santa" thing was about a Slate blogger's article. He's now a black penguin.

[tomder55]

Lets face facts MSNBC just sucks. But that BS about them demonstrating a greater respect for the truth .
Bwaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa !!!!! if only their hosts were as entertaining as that remark ,they'd get their audience.

[talaniman]

The whole "white Santa" thing was about a Slate blogger's article. He's now a black penguin.

That's just as logical as a fat guy in a red suit, with reindeer that can fly and gets up and shimmy down a chimney without getting dirty.

[speechlesstx]

Lets face facts MSNBC just sucks. But that BS about them demonstrating a greater respect for the truth .
Bwaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa !!!!! if only their hosts were as entertaining as that remark ,they'd get their audience.

Hence my lol response. That and the " It’s not as good at being liberal as Fox is at being conservative."

ON MSNBC, the ratio of negative to positive stories on GOP candidate Mitt Romney was 71 to 3.

That's not a news channel. That's a propaganda machine, and owner Comcast should probably change Phil Griffin's title from president to high minister of information, or something equally befitting the work of a party propaganist hack in a totalitarian regime. You wonder how mainstream news organizations allow their reporters and correspondents to appear in such a cauldron of bias.

I thought show host Sean Hannity of Fox News defined party propagandist. But while his channel was bad, it wasn't as bad-boy biased as MSNBC.

The ratio of negative to positive stories in Fox's coverage of President Obama was 46 to 6.

Read more: MSNBC really is more partisan than Fox, according to Pew study - baltimoresun.com

[talaniman]

That's what remotes are for, don't like a show, click it!!

You want news... The Daily Show, followed by The Colbert Report.

[excon]

Hello again,

THAT FOX is better at producing TV than NBC is, means NOTHING about the underlying message..

Look... I HATE watching Chris Hays, although I AGREE with everything he says. So, I watch Bill O'Reilly, even though he's a boor, and I DISAGREE with EVERYTHING he says. It's much better TV.

excon

[tomder55]

if I catch any FOX at all ,it's Greta (she's in the time slot Shep Smith used to occupy ...Smith's news broadcasts were better ) .

[talaniman]

Fox is great until you turn on the talking heads that aren't talking sports.

[speechlesstx]

This is why MSNBC sucks, hammering a guy for answering a question honestly while openly joking he might enjoy poopie sex.

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/20/m....TGhF6s0c.dpbs

[speechlesstx]

They might be more compelling if they weren't such morons. Joy Reid, in their continuing obsession with Sarah Palin, totally massacred an interpretation of Jeremiah to prove she is a "pretender" when it comes to Christianity...on segment called "Pretenders" no less.

MSNBC’s Reid Bashes Palin for Having a Christmas Tree...on Christmas! | NewsBusters

[talaniman]

So a bible thumper can only quote certain gospel and ignore the other gospels?

REID: Certain parts of the Bible also appear to preach against let's say, I don't know, Christmas trees. Here's Jeremiah 10-10, it reads:

“For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. Like a scare crow in a cucumber field, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

And the righties ignore the remark Phil made about blacks being happier during Jim Crow, than they were before welfare, and civil rights. Back then the price of any dissent by blacks could get you lynched. Trying to sugarcoa his bigotry, while villifying his critics is disgusting. You and Phil have a right to your opinions, so does everybody else that may disagree.

Phil and Sarah are hypocrites

[speechlesstx]

Sure she can quote it, she is certainly entitled to look like a total idiot. Apparently you don't understand it either. Might be wise to know what the heck the verse is referring to before lecturing others on it.

[speechlesstx]

Phil and Sarah are hypocrites

I'm sorry but hypocrisy is using hate and intolerance to battle hate and intolerance. You cannot with an ounce of credibility hate on someone and be intolerant of their views while expecting them to come around to your side. It works both ways Tal.

P.S. Do you have a Christmas tree? I do, so does my church. We don't worship them as gods which is what Jeremiah condemned.

Oh, and I believe shortly thereafter Jeremiah called on God to pour out His wrath on those that didn't know Him, should Phil have called for that, too instead of saying it would be better if we all just loved each other? If the morons at MSNBC want to use the Bible as a hammer they had better be prepared to use it all.