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Dec 13, 2013, 08:45 AM
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The Michigan legislature gave 300,000 voters their blessing, but will it meet constitutional muster and over ride the federal law? We'll see.
I won't comment on a teen who wasn't tried as an adult in Texas for killing 4 people while drunk. Money talks and he was in the right America.
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Dec 16, 2013, 07:49 AM
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Congratulations Media Matters...
Media Matters Declares Victory: 'The War On Fox Is Over'
Since its founding in 2004, the progressive watchdog group Media Matters for America has been a thorn in the side of Fox News. Its dozens of staffers monitor the network's leadership, hosts, guests and financial dealings incessantly, calling out misinformation, conflicts of interest and evidence of a partisan agenda, in a bid to shed light on the workings of the right-wing echo chamber.
But in the coming years, Fox will no longer be the center of Media Matters' universe. That's because the group believes it has effectively discredited the network's desire to be seen as "fair and balanced."
"The war on Fox is over," said Media Matters Executive Vice President Angelo Carusone. "And it's not just that it's over, but it was very successful. To a large extent, we won."
Not exactly sure what it is they won, Fox still exceeds the ratings of the other big three cable news networks combined. But congratulations, I'm sure Fox is feeling the sting.
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Dec 16, 2013, 08:20 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
In MY world, being popular doesn't mean you're truthful.
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Dec 16, 2013, 08:54 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
In MY world, being popular doesn't mean you're truthful.
excon
In MY world being untruthful doesn't make you popular. If it did MSNBC would be the ratings king.
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Dec 16, 2013, 09:02 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
Lemme say it again. Ratings and truth are NOT synonymous..
Liberals don't LIKE to be told WHAT to believe. Right wingers, NEED to be told what to believe.
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Dec 16, 2013, 09:12 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Lemme say it again. Ratings and truth are NOT synonymous..
Liberals don't LIKE to be told WHAT to believe. Right wingers, NEED to be told what to believe.
excon
Actually ex, you have that exactly backwards. That's why libs watch MSNBC and conservatives don't. I suspect it also has something to do with why Media Matters is waving the white flag, people aren't interested in their BS.
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Dec 16, 2013, 09:56 AM
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Photo of the day, VP Joe Biden groping a White House reporter, The Hill's Aime Parnes.
Yeah, it's Republicans that don't respect women.
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Dec 16, 2013, 11:42 AM
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That's groping? Wow, people get offended at anything these days.
BTW is Biden speaking for all Democrats?
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Dec 16, 2013, 12:10 PM
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Well at least he got the better of government and not the other way around...
Climate change expert's fraud was 'crime of massive proportion,' say feds - Investigations
The EPA’s highest-paid employee and a leading expert on climate change deserves to go to prison for at least 30 months for lying to his bosses and saying he was a CIA spy working in Pakistan so he could avoid doing his real job, say federal prosecutors.
John C. Beale, who pled guilty in September to bilking the government out of nearly $1 million in salary and other benefits over a decade, will be sentenced in a Washington, D.C., federal court on Wednesday. In a newly filed sentencing memo, prosecutors said that his lies were a "crime of massive proportion" that were “offensive” to those who actually do dangerous work for the CIA.
Beale’s lawyer, while acknowledging his guilt, has asked for leniency and offered a psychological explanation for the climate expert’s bizarre tales.
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“With the help of his therapist,” wrote attorney John Kern, “Mr. Beale has come to recognize that, beyond the motive of greed, his theft and deception were animated by a highly self-destructive and dysfunctional need to engage in excessively reckless, risky behavior.” Kern also said Beale was driven “to manipulate those around him through the fabrication of grandiose narratives … that are fueled by his insecurities.”
The two sentencing memos, along with documents obtained by NBC News, offer new details about what some officials describe as one of the most audacious, and creative, federal frauds they have ever encountered.
When he first began looking into Beale’s deceptions last February, “I thought, ‘Oh my God, How could this possibly have happened in this agency?” said EPA Assistant Inspector General Patrick Sullivan, who spearheaded the Beale probe, in an interview with NBC News. “I’ve worked for the government for 35 years. I’ve never seen a situation like this.”
Beyond Beale’s individual fate, his case raises larger questions about how he was able to get away with his admitted fraud for so long, according to federal and congressional investigators. Two new reports by the EPA inspector general’s office conclude that top officials at the agency “enabled” Beale by failing to verify any of his phony cover stories about CIA work, and failing to check on hundreds of thousands of dollars paid him in undeserved bonuses and travel expenses -- including first-class trips to London where he stayed at five-star hotels and racked up thousands in bills for limos and taxis.
Until he retired in April after learning he was under federal investigation, Beale, an NYU grad with a masters from Princeton, was earning a salary and bonuses of $206,000 a year, making him the highest paid official at the EPA. He earned more money than Gina McCarthy, the agency’s administrator and, for years, his immediate boss, according to agency documents.
In September, Beale, who served as a “senior policy adviser” in the agency’s Office of Air and Radiation, pled guilty to defrauding the U.S. government out of nearly $900,000 since 2000. Beale perpetrated his fraud largely by failing to show up at the EPA for months at a time, including one 18-month stretch starting in June 2011 when he did “absolutely no work,” as Kern, Beale’s lawyer, acknowledged in his court filing.
Actually, I'm almost willing to pay the really, really smart people at the EPA not to do anything.
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Dec 16, 2013, 12:14 PM
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Hello again, Steve:
Yeah, there are crooks in government... I'm SURE it was Obama's fault.
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Dec 16, 2013, 02:05 PM
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Crooks, yep, shame we don't have competent managers, too.
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Dec 17, 2013, 07:28 AM
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Dec 17, 2013, 07:53 AM
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A lot of people end up comparing someone to the Nazis, that's why Godwin's Law exists. Waters loses. Though I still like his music.
BTW, what has come to that?
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Dec 17, 2013, 08:00 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Crooks, yep, shame we don't have competent managers, too.
TParty guys are lousy managers, all holler no do. Obstruction, destruction, holler, scream, throw rocks and call names is not good management.
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Dec 17, 2013, 08:20 AM
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Tal, you really must stop projecting your side's failures on others. You and Jay Carney are sounding like Baghdad Bob.
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Dec 17, 2013, 08:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
It's a shame that I'm going to have to destroy all my Floyd CDs .
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Dec 17, 2013, 08:48 AM
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I thought we were doing quite good dragging you guys forward despite all the kicking, and screaming. You underestimate our accomplishments and completely ignore the drag to positive progress has been your own lack of positive actions.
But I suppose the fear of drowning makes a guy who can't swim fight his rescuer. We can't let you guys drown, no matter how easy, or tempting the notion is.
Liberals realize you are just slowing things down and that's okay. You ain't STOPPING us though, forget it.
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Dec 17, 2013, 09:09 AM
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It's a shame that I'm going to have to destroy all my Floyd CDs
I'm sure he'll be devastated to hear that.
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Dec 17, 2013, 09:14 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
I thought we were doing quite good dragging you guys forward despite all the kicking, and screaming. You underestimate our accomplishments and completely ignore the drag to positive progress has been your own lack of positive actions.
But I suppose the fear of drowning makes a guy who can't swim fight his rescuer. We can't let you guys drown, no matter how easy, or tempting the notion is.
Liberals realize you are just slowing things down and that's okay. You ain't STOPPING us though, forget it.
Yep, Baghdad Bob is back. Only a guy that thinks the crap sandwich we have today is progress. You just set me back a thousand bucks and gave me worse coverage, screw you're "progress."
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Dec 17, 2013, 09:37 AM
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Speech - come to Canada! :-)
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