[paraclete]

electric vehicles that means more emissions, I sort of look behind the bullshlt you see, there is a disconnect in the thinking, cuase and effect doesn'ts eem to get through. want to reduce emissions from transport get rid of the trucks and put it on rail

[tomder55]

ah shucks you expect folks to get off their proverbal and do well because you throw some incentive their way. Don't work like that son! What you have to do is give them a long term view, called faith in the future. now you are a little short on that right now!

Ah hope this little down home lesson isn't lost on you. Don't you have any preachers left in that land or did you shoot the last one? I'm goin to give youse a prophesy because I'm a prophet. The end is neigh, you has ateall the potatas and all you got left is... well I don't know what it is, but it ain't nice, so get offen your buts and start cooperatin or down you go.

bin sippin that loco juice ?

[tomder55]

electric vehicles that means more emissions, I sort of look behind the bullshlt you see, there is a disconnect in the thinking, cuase and effect doesn'ts eem to get through. want to reduce emissions from transport get rid of the trucks and put it on rail

All we need to know about climate change is that the lowest temp recorded in history recently happened in Antarctica. ( - 135.8 F )

[speechlesstx]

It's been unseasonably cold in Texas for the last week. Dallas shut down, single digits here.

[paraclete]

All we need to know about climate change is that the lowest temp recorded in history recently happened in Antarctica. ( - 135.8 F )

How do we know anything about what's possible in Antarctica, we are impressed by that but I'm more interested in what it means elsewhere, Speech says it's been cold in Texas, by coincidence we had snow last week in December (summer), one of those Antarctic blasts, had a few this year. I suppose what climate change means is that the jet streams become more unstable

[tomder55]

Now I see that Tom, the arch conservative voice in our midst, is advocating a return to beggering the poor for the benefit of the rich. Obviously his state, being the home of the biggest city and the financial hub, would benefit most. So much for yankee largesse, Tom, the last carpetbagger, rides again

lol ,my state has been run by lefties for decades , Keep that in mind all you who think I'm the one promoting corporate interests . When corporate money talks ,it the progressives who hear it .
Take as an example the lefty organization 'Center for American Progress ' . They are the ones who fund 'Think Progress' which provides Tal with his rants. I posted about it's founder and chairman John Podesta going to serve as a senior adviser to the emperor
They recently released their list of corporate donors for the 1st time.
Among their corporate donors are ,Walmart, Goldman Sachs, Google, Northrop Grumman, T-Mobile, Toyota, Visa, GE,Wells Fargo...... and many others .
Our Supporters | Center for American Progress

CAP says that individuals and foundations account for more than 90% of its funding, and corporations only around 6%. It would be interesting to see the individual and foundation donor list; my guess is that left-wing foundations, most of which spend money left by dead conservatives top their list (like Ford and Rockefeller foundations ) .

Large corporations are not supporters of free enterprise. They prefer to partner with government to suppress innovation and competition. Oddly enough ,that makes their position simpatico with the left ,which plays lip service to defending the poor from the rich ,but in reality sleep in the same bed with them.

[NeedKarma]

When corporate money talks ,it the progressives who hear it .

You are so fanatically driven by partisan politics to ever understand that it happens irrespective of party affiliation.

[Tuttyd]

I'm not so sure NK. I think Tom is starting to realise there isn't " a dimes worth of difference between the two parties".

[paraclete]

Now that's not true tutt the difference is in name only, once they were known as the democat- republicans or was it the republican democrats. I guess it's better than being known as the Whigs

[tomder55]

I realized that many years ago ;after I shook off the indoctrination from years of attending the New York Public education system ,and a subsequent liberal arts education in college. For the record ......I was a registered Democrat ....I've never been a registered Republican.

[paraclete]

so Tom what does that mean, you couldn't cast a vote for Bush in the primaries and wouldn't cast a vote for Obama in the primaries? It isn't obvious where your allegiences lie dispite your rhetoric

By the way Jefferson isn't on the ticket, perhaps you could write him in

[tomder55]

so Tom what does that mean, you couldn't cast a vote for Bush in the primaries and wouldn't cast a vote for Obama in the primaries? It isn't obvious where your allegiences lie dispite your rhetoric

By the way Jefferson isn't on the ticket, perhaps you could write him in

there is no Republican party of any consequence in NY .I lose nothing from not voting in primaries .
And I'm a Madison type of guy.

[paraclete]

there is no Republican party of any consequence in NY .I lose nothing from not voting in primaries .
And I'm a Madison type of guy.

amazing, must be terrible to live in a place where your vote doesn't count. what happened to carry the fight to them no matter what?

[NeedKarma]

I realized that many years ago

You say that but your post are overwhelmingly in the republican camp. Actually the post are less pro-republican than anti-everything-liberal. You still don't realize that both sides do stupid things equally.

[paraclete]

of course thay are both inept

[tomder55]

Actually the post are less pro-republican than anti-everything-liberal.

yes ;only pro-Republican when they promote conservative positions.

[talaniman]

Why do conservative positions always have to impact the poor, old, and minorities in cruel adverse ways?

[tomder55]

right back at ya . You just THINK you policies help .

[talaniman]

Well that's no answer. I have asserted you value rich humans over poor ones, and your policies reflect that as you export this attitude to all parts of the world forcing your own rights and attitudes while denying the rights of others.

Conservative don't seem to value anything but there own interest, thus isolating yourselves in your own thinking. I know you are a capitalist, and agree with a broken business model. Yet you still protect that broken model, and keep redistributing the wealth to the supply side, and ignore the demand side. Balancing both would benefit the whole economy, and more people not just the few.

[tomder55]

I don't agree with your premise or your conclusions and will not defend positions you incorrectly attribute to me ..

you value rich humans over poor ones, and your policies reflect that as you export this attitude to all parts of the world forcing your own rights and attitudes while denying the rights of others.

We value all people equally . Our values have a proven track record of lifting people out of poverty .

Conservative don't seem to value anything but there own interest, thus isolating yourselves in your own thinking

I don't even know what that means .Conservatives spend a lot of time defending our values against persistent attacks from the left and those who would 'fundamentally transform ' the country and replace traditional values with a relativist view.

I know you are a capitalist, and agree with a broken business model.

Totally disagree that the capitalist model is broken . Where it falls short is where government tries to micromanage the economy .

Yet you still protect that broken model, and keep redistributing the wealth to the supply side, and ignore the demand side. Balancing both would benefit the whole economy, and more people not just the few.

I don't believe in redistribution ...period . Conservatives believe in expanding the pie so everyone benefits.