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Dec 1, 2013, 04:32 PM
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Dec 1, 2013, 04:49 PM
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Under that video, tomder, it says --
"Published on Dec 1, 2013
CNN: ObamaCare Website Crashes During Signup Process (November 1, 2013)"
Then there is this from CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/01/politi...acare-website/
"By Martina Stewart, CNN
updated 4:01 PM EST, Sun December 1, 2013"
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Dec 1, 2013, 05:01 PM
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CNN/ORC Poll: Are Obamacare's flaws fixable? – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
Washington (CNN) – Despite the flawed rollout of HealthCare.gov, a majority of Americans still seem to have an open mind about whether Obamacare will work, and more than half of those surveyed in a new national poll believe the current problems can be solved.
A CNN/ORC International poll also indicates nearly six in 10 Americans oppose the national health care law, but some give the Affordable Care Act a thumbs down because it isn't liberal enough.
Just to rebutt that vast majority stuff.
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Dec 1, 2013, 05:02 PM
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A website crashes happens everyday, mine is down right now
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Dec 1, 2013, 05:05 PM
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trust me WG that was this morning .
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Dec 1, 2013, 05:07 PM
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Hello clete:
A website crashes happens everyday, mine is down right now
Then you should do the responsible thing, and close your doors forever.
excon
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Dec 1, 2013, 05:13 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello clete:
Then you should do the responsible thing, and close your doors forever.
excon
No ex I will do the responsible thing and restore the website. A website crashes, it isn't the end of the world
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Dec 1, 2013, 05:46 PM
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Not whens it's the centerpiece of your landmark legislation by the most tech savvy administration ever.
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Dec 1, 2013, 06:20 PM
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Especially when it's the centerpiece of your landmark legislation by the most tech savvy administration ever.
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Dec 1, 2013, 06:48 PM
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Right.
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Dec 1, 2013, 07:40 PM
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Not whens it's the centerpiece of your landmark legislation by the most tech savvy administration ever.
Who made that claim?
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Dec 2, 2013, 05:53 AM
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Hello again,
I'm a SMALL government liberal... You????
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Dec 2, 2013, 07:48 AM
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Is that before or after Obamacare?
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Dec 2, 2013, 07:54 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again,
I'm a SMALL government liberal... You????
Yes the cost curve went up as government requirements increased . The system before Obamacare could hardly be called 'free market' .
Curious to know how you reconcile being a 'small government'type of guy with a national single payer system that administers to 315 million Americans (and God knows how many illegals ) .
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Dec 2, 2013, 08:12 AM
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The system before was run entirely by business for many decades, so the model they used must have been broken yet they made no fixes to it. WHY?
What could they have done to fix it?
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Dec 2, 2013, 08:19 AM
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Obviously government is the solution. Maybe one day they'll even be able to build a website.
P.S. Via Chuck Todd from the WH relaunch report, why government is not the solution:
CHUCK TODD: David, the most interesting thing in this report, right, page one– it's page three of the report, it says here that, “The team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.”
DAVID GREGORY: Yeah.
CHUCK TODD: Okay, that is an acknowledgement that, “You know what? If this was a government operation for a long time and it failed, now we're bringing in the private sector folks.” I mean, that is an indictment on the whole idea of government as a solution, frankly, when you look at [unintelligible].
Even the regime admits the private sector does it better.
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Dec 2, 2013, 08:25 AM
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Try to keep up. It's a collaboration between public and PRIVATE sectors. The website has gone from 43% to 90% efficient in 60 days. That's progress. Therewill be more progress, on many fronts.
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Dec 2, 2013, 08:28 AM
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The system before was run entirely by business for many decades,
No it wasn't . It was run as 50 state government approved cartels .It's more cable tv. Only a few providers are allowed in ,at the local politicians discretion .You can't as a consumer make choices in programming. You must purchase tiers of service that pads your dial with cr@p you'll never watch . In the end you are over paying for services that you don't want .
The only difference is that Obamacare takes the whole concept national .
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Dec 2, 2013, 08:37 AM
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Hello again, tom:
Curious to know how you reconcile being a 'small government 'type of guy with a national single payer system that administers to 315 million Americans
For the same reason you call yourself a small government conservative, all the while supporting a military that is 10 times larger than the next 10 largest nations COMBINED.
By the way, single payer is NOT large government.. It's government writing checks.. You don't need a HUGE, HUMONGOUS bureaucracy to do that.. You need a FEW computer geeks. It could be done out of the basement in the White House.
Your HUGE military, on the other hand, really IS that big..
excon
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Dec 2, 2013, 08:42 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
Is that before or after Obamacare?
It's now. That's another reason why single payer would have been much better.. Obamacare pushes down the cost curve every so slightly.. But, it really wasn't meant to DO that.. It was MEANT to be a free market system, and it IS. You know, with PRIVATE insurance companies, and stuff..
Oh, it's an OUT OF CONTROL market, and NEEDS to be curbed... But, Obamacare ain't gonna do that, cause it's NOT universal healthcare..
excon
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