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    #401

    Nov 6, 2013, 05:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Tut, some of us acknowledge it is practiced in both sides. Some just rant about the other side doing it.

    Yes, but it still adds up to complicity.
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    #402

    Nov 6, 2013, 05:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Yes, but it still adds up to complicity.
    I'm not the one in denial.
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    Nov 6, 2013, 05:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I'm not the one in denial.

    Yes, I know. Other conservatives here avoid the topic like the plague, except to point to the Dems. when they do it. I think that can be classed as an aversion to reality.
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    Nov 6, 2013, 05:30 AM
    Not sure who the other conservatives are . I repeatedly point out that the beltway Repubics are no different than the Dems regarding cronyism.
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    Nov 6, 2013, 05:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Not sure who the other conservatives are . I repeatedly point out that the beltway Repubics are no different than the Dems regarding cronyism.

    Just like to bring this topic up now and again just in case someone comes up with a constructive idea.
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    #406

    Nov 6, 2013, 05:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Just like to bring this topic up now and again just in case someone comes up with a constructive idea.
    Term limits across the board . Although I don't favor campaign donation restrictions ,I am in favor of complete transparency . We should not have learned on the day before the vote that a bundler for the emperor had financed the race of the pseudo- libertarian trojan horse candidate in the VA Guv race .
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    #407

    Nov 6, 2013, 02:13 PM
    It's come to this... the media, pro-abortion hero starting her campaign for governor of Texas has declared she's really pro-life.

    Abortion Activist Wendy Davis Tells Texas Voters, “I Am Pro-Life”

    Good luck with that in Texas Wendy, we aren't that stupid.
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    #408

    Nov 11, 2013, 11:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You make my point as now you equate second class citizens to poor people. Its republicans trying to constrain people by eliminating the one way ALL people are equal, and that's the VOTE.

    Its republicans who wasted no time re enacting laws that were found by the court to be unconstitutional, and discriminatory so back to court we go. Poor people and minorities don't raise prices don't destroy unions, and don't send middle class jobs to places with no regulations or labor laws, while republicans deny food stamps to WORKING poor people.
    Oh yeah?

    Obama using food-stamp cash to fund Michelle’s ‘Let’s Move’

    As you dig into your Butterball with all the trimmings this Thanksgiving, remember that millions of famished schoolkids around America may be forced to forgo classic turkey — and chow down instead on vegan black-bean patties and organic locavore quinoa salad.

    On Nov. 1, sizable cuts were gouged into the federal food-stamp program (or, as it’s now called, SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), which feeds 47.6 million people, or nearly one in six Americans. In the city, 1.9 million folks get the bulk of their Jell-O and Campbell’s Soup from stamps.

    But news has spread among the poor, like leafy green vegetables, that it wasn’t heartless Republicans who triggered the cuts.

    Rather, some of the food-stamp cash was snatched to pay for Michelle Obama’s pet project, Let’s Move. What?
    It’s come to this. Some 76 million meals a year will vanish from this city — poof! — partly because the president diverted money from SNAP to the first lady’s signature program, part of her Let’s Move anti-obesity initiative — the bean-sprout-heavy, $4.5 billion Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act.

    The rest of the $5 billion annual food-stamp cuts was taken when 2009 stimulus funds dried up. But with ObamaCare woes stealing the oxygen in Washington, there’s little urgency to replace dandelion greens served on recyclable trays with family-friendly buttered mashed potatoes.

    Right now, the country’s poorest families of four are seeing food-stamp allotments cut from $668 a month to $632. It may not sound like much, but understand that $36 is enough to buy a truckload of Kool-Aid and ramen noodles. (Lose the noodles if the Food and Drug Administration succeeds in banning trans fats.)

    How did this happen?

    Hunger activists are livid. In fact, the cuts will bring on no less than civil unrest, according to the head of the Food Bank for New York City.

    “If you look across the world, riots always begin typically the same way: when people can’t afford to eat food,” Margarette Purvis, Food Bank president and CEO, told Salon.com.

    “We were told, you know, by the president . . . these cuts will not happen,” she said.
    Oh SNAP, you thought it was just mean old Republicans taking food from hungry children.
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    Nov 11, 2013, 01:36 PM
    More inaccurate winger stuff. And you mean nasty wingers ARE taking food out of kids mouths and giving the money to rich fat farmers in the house, like Bachmann, and Fincher.

    The school nutrition program is on line and a part of SNAP, and REPUBLICAN are defunding Meals On Wheels too.

    http://www.pressherald.com/news/meal...013-03-31.html
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    #410

    Nov 11, 2013, 02:10 PM
    So taking lunch from kids to fund Michelle's pet project is OK, got it. How the hell they going to move if they have nothing to eat?
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    Nov 11, 2013, 02:30 PM
    So taking lunch from kids to fund Michelle's pet project is OK, got it. How the hell they gonna move if they have nothing to eat?
    So when you eleceted BO you bought the package or is that the baggage, anyway you get it all
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    #412

    Nov 11, 2013, 02:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    So when you eleceted BO you bought the package or is that the baggage, anyway you get it all
    Oh, we got it all right, but the point is if a Republican cuts food stamps he's a mean old b@stard for taking food from children. When a Democrat does it Republicans are still mean old b@stards for taking food from children.

    Democrats take food from all of us, they think we're selfish for not wanting to be forced to fork over an extra couple hundred bucks a month on insurance instead of buying groceries or paying the heating bill.
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    Nov 11, 2013, 03:10 PM
    Hello again, Steve:
    for not wanting to be forced to fork over an extra couple hundred bucks a month on insurance instead of buying groceries or paying the heating bill.
    Lemme see..

    Right now you ARE paying for the health care of the uninsured. You KNOW that, right? It's the MOST expensive form of health care too. It's costing you MORE than a couple hundred bucks a month.

    Surly, you see the benefit to your very OWN wallet by insuring those people.. Can't you? Ok, maybe you can't see that.. Oh, well.

    excon
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    Nov 11, 2013, 03:20 PM
    Healthy Schools Campaign: Child Nutrition Act

    The original program started in 1966 by LBJ.

    Child Nutrition Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act

    Improving child nutrition is the focal point of the Healthy, Hunger-Free
    Kids Act of 2010. The legislation authorizes funding and sets policy for
    USDA's core child nutrition programs: the National School Lunch Program,
    the School Breakfast Program, the Special Supplemental Nutrition
    Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), the Summer Food
    Service Program, and the Child and Adult Care Food Program. The
    Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act allows USDA, for the first time in over
    30 years, opportunity to make real reforms to the school lunch and
    breakfast programs by improving the critical nutrition and hunger safety
    net for millions of children.
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    Nov 11, 2013, 03:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Surly, you see the benefit to your very OWN wallet by insuring those people.. Can't you? Ok, maybe you can't see that.. Oh, well.

    excon
    Surely you can see I'm not stupid, you can't take several hundred bucks PER MONTH from people's wallets and seriously tell us it's saving us money.
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    Nov 11, 2013, 03:51 PM
    First off, kids aren't eating Michelle's wonderful healthy meals and secondly, unlike you hunger activists are pi$$ed about the emperor using these funds for Michelle's project. We all want people to eat, but my private dollars go a whole lot farther in feeding the hungry than your bloated, wasteful bureaucracies will ever accomplish.
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    Nov 11, 2013, 03:59 PM
    Hello again, Steve:
    you can't take several hundred bucks PER MONTH from people's wallets and seriously tell us it's saving us money.
    Yeah, it's a hard concept to grasp. Here's an exercise for you. Go over to your nearest ER. Count the people waiting. The average visit to an ER costs around $2,000. A visit to a family doctor costs about $100. That's about $1,900 MORE than we have to pay for the SAME services. Multiply that by every ER in your state, and then multiply that by 50. Then multiply that by 24 hours in the day.

    I'd say that would be many millions of $$'s, wouldn't you??

    excon
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    Nov 11, 2013, 04:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    Yeah, it's a hard concept to grasp. Here's an exercise for you. Go over to your nearest ER. Count the people waiting. The average visit to an ER costs around $2,000. A visit to a family doctor costs about $100. That's about $1,900 MORE than we have to pay for the SAME services. Multiply that by every ER in your state, and then multiply that by 50. Then multiply that by 24 hours in the day.

    I'd say that would be many millions of $$'s, wouldn't you??

    excon
    Ex they will never see that sort of logic, you know why? somehow it infringes on their prescious freedoms. The freedom to be sick without help, The freedom to be part of the next epidemic and be infected by the untreated, the freedom to waste resources and above all the freedom to squirrel away their money
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    Nov 11, 2013, 04:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    my private dollars go a whole lot farther in feeding the hungry than your bloated, wasteful bureaucracies will ever accomplish.
    How many people are you feeding every day?
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    Nov 12, 2013, 06:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    How many people are you feeding every day?
    At least nine, and you? And that does not count my tax dollars being used for such purposes.

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