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 Originally Posted by excon
There's a part of the book 'Atlas Shrugged', when a politician who was delayed in his travels, demands that a coal burning train travel through an 8 mile tunnel. He deemed the job done. Predictably the tunnel filled with smoke ,and 300 passengers asphyxiated. |
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Hello again, Steve:
Even though you THINK we "anointed" Obama, Ted Cruz's FATHER actually DID anoint his son.
Ted Cruz's Father Suggested His Son Is 'Anointed' to Bring About 'End Time Transfer of Wealth'
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Cruz and Paul do have old man problems. I wonder if the press will ignore them like they ignored the emperor's relationship with Rev Wright or his childhood mentor Frank Marshall Davis .
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Originally Posted by excon
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Hello again, Steve:
here we go this dominionist conspiracy again.
Okee doakee. excon |
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Originally Posted by excon
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What's the chance of a religious right wing conservative being president? NONE if any. That doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm sure there are many that would gladly like the country to be ruled by the theocrats strictly based on the bible.
No church should have that kind of power. |
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Originally Posted by talaniman
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No worse than you guys trying to destroy your own government.
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Originally Posted by talaniman
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That's the reality of your words and actions, but you will fail to destroy this nation!
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Originally Posted by talaniman
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I'm just cooperating in letting the results speak for themselves...
Sticker shock often follows insurance cancellation
MIAMI (AP) — Dean Griffin liked the health insurance he purchased for himself and his wife three years ago and thought he'd be able to keep the plan even after the federal Affordable Care Act took effect. But the 64-year-old recently received a letter notifying him the plan was being canceled because it didn't cover certain benefits required under the law.The Griffins, who live near Philadelphia on the Delaware border, pay $770 monthly for their soon-to-be-terminated health care plan with a $2,500 deductible. The cheapest plan they found on their state insurance exchange was a so-called bronze plan charging a $1,275 monthly premium with deductibles totaling $12,700. It covers only providers in Pennsylvania, so the couple wouldn't be able to see the doctors in Delaware whom they've used for more than a decade. "We're buying insurance that we will never use and can't possibly ever benefit from. We're basically passing on a benefit to other people who are not otherwise able to buy basic insurance," said Griffin, who is retired from running an information technology company. The Griffins are among millions of people nationwide who buy individual insurance policies and are receiving notices that those policies are being discontinued because they don't meet the higher benefit requirements of the new law. They can buy different policies directly from insurers for 2014 or sign up for plans on state insurance exchanges. While lower-income people could see lower costs because of government subsidies, many in the middle class may get rude awakenings when they access the websites and realize they'll have to pay significantly more. Those not eligible for subsidies generally receive more comprehensive coverage than they had under their soon-to-be-canceled policies, but they'll have to pay a lot more. Because of the higher cost, the Griffins are considering paying the federal penalty — about $100 or 1 percent of income next year — rather than buying health insurance. They say they are healthy and don't typically run up large health care costs. Dean Griffin said that will be cheaper because it's unlikely they will get past the nearly $13,000 deductible for the coverage to kick in. |
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Your anecdotes never have enough data to make reasonable decisions because in fact all you want is to portray the downside of sticker shock.
I still ask if you have junk insurance or a bare bones policy and NEVER use it, how do you know you like it? In the past many who liked their insurance didn't like it when they had to use it, and I am sure a 64 year old healthy guy or woman would not like to have cancer screenings or prostate exams NOT covered by the insurance they paid for and liked so well. |
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That's the reality of your words and actions, but you will fail to destroy this nation!
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He is our president duly elected AND re-elected under the law whether you like him or not and but one branch of government and I point out the branch you wingers control is the only one that's shut down the government because they didn't have the votes to get what they wanted.
We would have been destroyed if republicans of good sense had not stepped in and ended the insane path YOU guys tried to force us on. |
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He is our president duly elected AND re-elected under the law whether you like him or not and but one branch of government and I point out the branch you wingers control is the only one that's shut down the government because they didn't have the votes to get what they wanted.
We would have been destroyed if republicans of good sense had not stepped in and ended the insane path YOU guys tried to force us on. |
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Lay off the koolade. |
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Hello again, dad:
Force on us? Obamacare was forced on us.
Lay off the koolade. If I were to say that Texas, for example, is FORCING abortion clinics to close, I'll betcha you'd call THAT democracy in action, wouldn't you?? I'll bet you'd tell the sniveling libs that if they DON'T like it, WIN some elections. Given those irrefutable facts, WHO'S the one drinking koolaid? excon |
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Come off it, the US you refer to are the ones who where OUT VOTED. That's the way America works, by votes. Win a few elections and get your way. That's how it works.
What's in YOUR koolade? |
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