[speechlesstx]

I know nothing about your healthcare, and don't wish to, I'm in Canada and very happy with our health care. I can say that we live paycheck to paycheck, even though my husband has a well paying job, we still struggle to make ends meet. If we had to pay $250 for a doctors visit, that would add a lot of stress.

There are three leading factors for divorce, money, infidelity, and sex (and yes, infidelity and sex are two different things).

So, will affordable health care help with divorce rates? It very well may do just that. Stress about money is a leading cause for divorce, so eliminating one of those financial stresses would help.

But is divorce the only reason why your country should have affordable health care? Of course not!

Also, your tone, and literally calling someone stupid:



Is not acceptable. If you're trying to prove your point, could you at least do so without belittling people just because they don't agree with you? That's uncalled for, and not behavior that's acceptable on this site, or anywhere.

You really should apologize.

Um, where did I literally call someone stupid? And if you have an issue with tones there are others with much worse tones than mine so excuse me if I don't take you seriously.

[Alty]

Um, where did I literally call someone stupid? And if you have an issue with tones there are others with much worse tones than mine so excuse me if I don't take you seriously.

The implication is perfectly clear to anyone with half a brain. Must be why you didn't get it.

Here, I made it bold for you.

I didn't read the entire thread, too much back and forth posturing "I'm right, you're wrong, I'll bully you and talk down to you because you don't agree with me" for my liking. Not my cup of tea. But sadly I do see this thread pop up because there's so much traffic on it. So today I took a look.

So let me explain what I posted to you. Saying that your point of view is clear to anyone with half a brain (people with half a brain aren't that smart, clearly), and then saying that that's why the poster didn't get your point of view, clearly says "You don't even have half a brain". Surely you understand that you called that person stupid. You didn't use the actual word, but hey, that's semantics.

Saying that there are people that act worse, or post worse than what you posted, what does that matter? So you bully, and belittle, but because there are others that are worse, that makes it okay?

You don't have to take me seriously, no problem, I didn't post to join the fight, I posted to point out that acting like a bunch of bullies in a school yard, calling each other names, doesn't prove your point. It only proves that you're not willing to listen to anyone other than people with your point of view. It also proves that when you don't get your way, you name call and try to belittle people. That's not the way to get people to respect your point of view.

So stop acting like a bunch of children, and start acting like the grownups you purport to be.

Show that you are actually willing to listen by reading my post and accepting your part in all of the bullying going on. If you all can't put on your big boy pants and big girl panties, listen to each other with respect, than why even bother? You accomplish nothing by going at each others throats because your views differ and you're not willing to listen to any point of view that doesn't mesh with your own.

In other words, you all need to grow up.

[speechlesstx]

Here, I made it bold for you.

I didn't read the entire thread, too much back and forth posturing "I'm right, you're wrong, I'll bully you and talk down to you because you don't agree with me" for my liking. Not my cup of tea. But sadly I do see this thread pop up because there's so much traffic on it. So today I took a look.

So let me explain what I posted to you. Saying that your point of view is clear to anyone with half a brain (people with half a brain aren't that smart, clearly), and then saying that that's why the poster didn't get your point of view, clearly says "You don't even have half a brain". Surely you understand that you called that person stupid. You didn't use the actual word, but hey, that's semantics.

Saying that there are people that act worse, or post worse than what you posted, what does that matter? So you bully, and belittle, but because there are others that are worse, that makes it okay?

You don't have to take me seriously, no problem, I didn't post to join the fight, I posted to point out that acting like a bunch of bullies in a school yard, calling each other names, doesn't prove your point. It only proves that you're not willing to listen to anyone other than people with your point of view. It also proves that when you don't get your way, you name call and try to belittle people. That's not the way to get people to respect your point of view.

So stop acting like a bunch of children, and start acting like the grownups you purport to be.

Show that you are actually willing to listen by reading my post and accepting your part in all of the bullying going on. If you all can't put on your big boy pants and big girl panties, listen to each other with respect, than why even bother? You accomplish nothing by going at each others throats because your views differ and you're not willing to listen to any point of view that doesn't mesh with your own.

In other words, you all need to grow up.

The irony of you not understanding the meaning of "literally" while lecturing me on not listening to the point of view of those who expect me to believe insurance companies, who are only concerned about profit, are selling premium plans for a third of the cost of "junk" is breathtaking.

I am not the one implying on a daily basis the other side is stupid. You really need to pay more attention to the BS I'm fed before lecturing me.

[Alty]

You really need to pay more attention to the BS I'm fed before lecturing me.

you all need to grow up.

Read my post again. I was "lecturing" all of you.

[speechlesstx]

I'm open and listening, will you go back and see the bullsh*t we deal with before lecturing any of us?

[paraclete]

Hey I wasn't even here don't include me in all

[J_9]

Alty, it's probably best that you stay out of this thread. ;)

[Tuttyd]

The irony of you not understanding the meaning of "literally" while lecturing me on not listening to the point of view of those who expect me to believe insurance companies, who are only concerned about profit, are selling premium plans for a third of the cost of "junk" is breathtaking.

I am not the one implying on a daily basis the other side is stupid. You really need to pay more attention to the BS I'm fed before lecturing me.

Yes, well I guess the BS is a problem everyone has to put up with from time to time. After all this is largely a political forum. It's not a mathematics or physics forum.

[speechlesstx]

You mean BS like this? The whole obamacare rollout disaster is apparently due to Republican sabotage.


The Obamacare sabotage campaign - Todd S. Purdum - POLITICO.com

That's right, the dysfunctional website, sticker shock and even the muddled white house message is Republican's fault.

[Tuttyd]

You mean BS like this? The whole obamacare rollout disaster is apparently due to Republican sabotage.


The Obamacare sabotage campaign - Todd S. Purdum - POLITICO.com

That's right, the dysfunctional website, sticker shock and even the muddled white house message is Republican's fault.

Yes, that would be an example. Not to difficult to find it on both sides of politics. Isn't that how your political system works?

[speechlesstx]

Yes, that would be an example. Not to difficult to find it on both sides of politics. Isn't that how your political system works?

I wouldn't confine that to just us my friend.

[Tuttyd]

I wouldn't confine that to just us my friend.

I didn't

[speechlesstx]

I'm just sayin'...

[tomder55]

The propaganda wing of the regime has been mobilized to have a full frontal recruitment drive to get people signed up during the coming holidays
. It's time to have the talk
They need to get 2.7 million invincibles signed up to pay for all those expanded Medicaid types that have dominated the Obamacare market so far.

[speechlesstx]

The propaganda wing of the regime has been mobilized to have a full frontal recruitment drive to get people signed up during the coming holidays
. It's time to have the talk
They need to get 2.7 million invincibles signed up to pay for all those expanded Medicaid types that have dominated the Obamacare market so far.

Yes, that's exactly what's on our minds for the holidays. Sebelius received an early Christmas gift from Sen. Brian Kelsey...


https://mobile.twitter.com/memphisda...523392/photo/1

[tomder55]

What they didn't show in the video is the kid calling his parents nuts. He said for the $600/per month I can get me a Tesla !!

[talaniman]

I remember the roll out of Medicare part D and it was a disaster, but look at it now, I can tell you it works and getting better. Many seniors though had to purchase a supplemental policy for prescription drugs and the donut hole was closed. But lets not forget before online pharmacy's became available, seniors ran to Canada by the busloads.

It's been widely reported and documented that even though democrats opposed the new law tooth and nail, once it became law it was all hands on deck to make it work. There were no shutdowns over it, or soaring gloom and doom rhetoric. Prices came down, delivery was improved.

Yeah America can make things work. It's a proven FACT, but the call for all hands on deck is being ignored by some that have forgotten where the true power of America is working together, for some insane notion that the few can dominate the many. That's always a recipe for disaster.

That's the way I see the sticker shock of a few, against the healthcare needs of the many.

[speechlesstx]

What they didn't show in the video is the kid calling his parents nuts. He said for the $600/per month I can get me a Tesla !!

Lol.

[excon]

Hello again,

Yaaaawwwwnnn... The website WILL be fixed, and JILLIONS of people will enroll.

Or not.

The tipping point is whether the site actually GETS fixed IN TIME. Fact IS, it's BEYOND time, and every day the website doesn't work, the prospects for Obamacare, AND the Democratic party, grow DIMMER and DIMMER.

I HOPE they fix it, because I don't want "severe" conservatives like Ted Cruz running my country... But, I'm NOT sure they will.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again,

Yaaaawwwwnnn... The website WILL be fixed, and JILLIONS of people will enroll.

Or not.

The tipping point is whether the site actually GETS fixed IN TIME. Fact IS, it's BEYOND time, and every day the website doesn't work, the prospects for Obamacare, AND the Democratic party, grow DIMMER and DIMMER.

I HOPE they fix it, because I don't want "severe" conservatives like Ted Cruz running my country... But, I'm NOT sure they will.

excon

Yep, Dems have to own this. But I thought it was Romney who was severely conservative.