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talaniman · Oct 16, 2013, 04:50 PM

The Roman Catholic Archdiocese for the Military Services, led by Archbishop Timothy Broglio, explained to CNSNews.com on Tuesday that there are about 900 Catholic priests serving Catholics in the military and their families at bases worldwide. These include priests who are serving on active-duty in the military, priests who are general schedule civilian government employees, and priests who are not government employees but who are on contract to the military to provide chaplain services to military personnel.

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They furloughed 50 priests and a whole bunch of other people too. Not to minimize the furlough, But how do you extend contracts for any one until the congress does its job? Its any interesting case, given the church he serviced on the base was open to other religions.

cdad · Oct 16, 2013, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

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They furloughed 50 priests and a whole bunch of other people too. Not to minimize the furlough, But how do you extend contracts for any one until the congress does its job? Its any interesting case, given the church he serviced on the base was open to other religions.

To me it seems a matter of singling out a segment. As you are aware for a person of faith (doesnt matter which one) that has a belief and practices that faith then there is usually a benefit to that person. How they can say there is no benefit is beyond my comprehension.

talaniman · Oct 16, 2013, 05:35 PM

I may be wrong but passing the pain of this furlough was more the goal than singling out just a few. But lets not get lost on the artificial circumstance that led to the suffering in the first place. If other religious contractors were not equally affected the same way though, that's just not fair.

cdad · Oct 16, 2013, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

I may be wrong but passing the pain of this furlough was more the goal than singling out just a few. But lets not get lost on the artificial circumstance that led to the suffering in the first place. If other religious contractors were not equally affected the same way though, that's just not fair.

Im not finding specifics but it seems they couldn't even volunteer to do it reguardless of the shutdown. They were barred from doing so.

Several articles on the situation.

Religious Services Denied to Military Personnel Due to Gov't Shutdown; Priests Could Get Arrested for Volunteering

Military Chaplains 'Shutdown' During Government Shutdown

Enyart: Why I voted against exempting religious programs from shutdown | Navy Times | navytimes.com

paraclete · Oct 16, 2013, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by cdad

Im not finding specifics but it seems they couldn't even volunteer to do it reguardless of the shutdown. They were barred from doing so.

Several articles on the situation.

Religious Services Denied to Military Personnel Due to Gov't Shutdown; Priests Could Get Arrested for Volunteering

Military Chaplains 'Shutdown' During Government Shutdown

Enyart: Why I voted against exempting religious programs from shutdown | Navy Times | navytimes.com

What does furlough mean? it means you aren't there to do the job and it was made abundantly clear in certain places people weren't wanted on site. Now you know that if people attended places of worship they would have found help and they could have got help from those who were not on furlough. What is irrational about this is, the rangers who erected barriers were considered essential but the priests weren't. That is some sort of discriminatary agenda, not necessarily anti-religious, but certainly pro-B/S

excon · Oct 19, 2013, 06:08 AM

Hello again,

Kansas: Former Attorney General Loses Law License for Anti-Abortion Actions

Certainly, the Kansas Supreme Court thinks there's a war on women. And, they IDENTIFY a perp. Who, would have ever figured this would happen in Kansas?

excon

excon · Oct 23, 2013, 08:15 AM

Hello again,

Do ya think connected and powerful teens should be able to get away with rape? Read about these guys who almost did. Do ya think maybe, that because it happens in our society MORE and MORE, that it TOO could be considered a war on women?

I think it COULD be.

excon

speechlesstx · Oct 23, 2013, 08:33 AM

I don't tolerate rapists.

talaniman · Oct 23, 2013, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I don't tolerate rapists.

You don't holler when Kansas does either, just saying.

speechlesstx · Oct 23, 2013, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

You don't holler when Kansas does either, just saying.

Oh good grief. Is there ever a time I can stand on your side without being criticized for it? Sheesh, this is ridiculous.

talaniman · Oct 23, 2013, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Oh good grief. Is there ever a time I can stand on your side without being criticized for it? Sheesh, this is ridiculous.

I like pushing your buttons, you're easy. :) :D

excon · Nov 7, 2013, 02:37 PM

Hello again,

There's no war on women. Move along. Nothing to see here. Just 12,000 shiny rape kits that went untested..

Memphis police are coming forward with a revelation that's angering thousands of victims in the city.

Police say they have more than 12,000 untested rape kits in their possession.

To test them and get rid of them, the department will have to pay more than $4.5 million. The money isn't the concern to the victims; several are worried the police weren't investigating cases and finding the closure for victims. They say crucial information that could have led to a rapists' capture sat on the police department's shelves.

I report, you decide.

excon

cdad · Nov 7, 2013, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

There's no war on women. Move along. Nothing to see here. Just 12,000 shiny rape kits that went untested..

I report, you decide.

excon

I give and outragous and an iffy on that story. For the ones that went unprocessed because they had a means to conviction Im not outraged about. But on the ones where it makes a difference, yes I am outraged about it.

Something like that should never happen.

speechlesstx · Nov 7, 2013, 03:29 PM

I agree, that should never, ever happen. Just curious though, who are you blaming this on? Memphis is the most liberal city in Tennessee.

excon · Nov 7, 2013, 05:07 PM

Hello again, Steve:

Just curious though, who are you blaming this on?

The cops. They're the same everywhere.

excon

talaniman · Nov 7, 2013, 05:20 PM

Where the Backlog Exists | ETB

Tip of the iceberg.

cdad · Nov 7, 2013, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Where the Backlog Exists | ETB

Tip of the iceberg.

The iceberg has already melted. It is about priorities. One of them being the "war on drugs". That part of law enforcement sucks all the money away from the real police work. It has become a lucrative business for local police departments.

Tax Dollars and Government Spending | Drug Policy Alliance

excon · Nov 9, 2013, 09:41 AM

Hello again,

Do my right wing friends believe there can be MEDICAL reasons, as opposed to contraception worries, for a woman to be prescribed birth control???

If it's determined that there CAN be, can a doctor at a Catholic hospital prescribe them to his patients?

If you determine that he CAN'T, AND as a card carrying right winger who doesn't want ANYBODY between you and your doctor, wouldn't that mean the BISHOP is standing between you and your doctor???

How would you resolve those conflicts?

excon

excon · Nov 9, 2013, 09:43 AM

Hello again, dad:

That part of law enforcement sucks all the money away from the real police work. It has become a lucrative business for local police departments.

It's NICE when both the right and the left can recognize the same demon.

excon

tomder55 · Nov 9, 2013, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Do my right wing friends believe there can be MEDICAL reasons, as opposed to contraception worries, for a woman to be prescribed birth control???

If it's determined that there CAN be, can a doctor at a Catholic hospital prescribe them to his patients?

If you determine that he CAN'T, AND as a card carrying right winger who doesn't want ANYBODY between you and your doctor, wouldn't that mean the BISHOP is standing between you and your doctor???

How would you resolve those conflicts?

excon

I would advise her to try a natural approach 1st . The whole idea of shutting down a woman's sexuality is a serious issue and in only GRAVE situations should it be considered. Still if a serious doctor recommends the pill for other medical conditions ,then neither I or the Catholic Church oppose it .

"15. On the other hand, the Church does not consider at all illicit the use of those therapeutic means necessary to cure bodily diseases, even if a foreseeable impediment to procreation should result there from—provided such impediment is not directly intended for any motive whatsoever. (19) "

( Humanae Vitae Humanae Vitae - Encyclical Letter of His Holiness Paul VI on the regulation of birth, 25 July 1968 )