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    #321

    Oct 10, 2013, 10:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Please give three examples of this within the past month.
    Really... How about his last speech where he claimed he was willing to negotiate with the House..

    EVERYTHING he has ever said about Obamacare...

    And his claiming shutting down AND BARRACADING the National parks was due to the Shutdown. THere have been 17 shutdowns in my adult life and not once was a park ever baracaded off during ONE of them.
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    #322

    Oct 10, 2013, 10:06 AM
    The first amendment gives you wingers the right to free speech, but reasonable people of conscious and good will have a right to call you LOONY.

    >waiting for right wing humor to kick in<
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    #323

    Oct 10, 2013, 10:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The first amendment gives you wingers the right to free speech, but reasonable people of conscious and good will have a right to call you LOONY.

    >waiting for right wing humor to kick in<
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    #324

    Oct 10, 2013, 10:14 AM
    A self portrait, or wishful thinking? Or no wonder you have a hard time swallowing.
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    #325

    Oct 10, 2013, 10:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    A self portrait, or wishful thinking? Or no wonder you have a hard time swallowing.
    Not... thats the average Democrat. If Obama claimed he was abducted by aliens tomorrow... they would accept it whole heartedly.

    Just like they believed all of Obamas Claims about Obamacare... and despite every one of them being proven grossely wrong they still believe its going to save everyone money and give everyone better care... despite a complete lack of proof. ANd in the face of overwhelming proof it will do the exact opposite.
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    #326

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Then stop calling him one.
    I'm not particularly concerned with tiptoeing around people that called Bush "dufus" and regularly portray conservatives as the source of all evil so no, I'll continue to call him the Messiah, emperor, dictator or whatever else seems appropriate at the time, he's earned it.
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    #327

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoother
    Not....thats the average Democrat.
    I can't imagine living in a country where I hate half the population. Why don't you move to another country where you'd be happier? You seem to really dislike most americans who aren't like you.
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    #328

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I can't imagine living in a country where I hate half the population. Why don't you move to another country where you'd be happier? You seem to really dislike most americans who aren't like you.
    Where do you get the authority to make that claim... you don't even live in the USA... so how would you know what the average American thinks?

    The fact is People that consider themselves liberal... are the minority here... in fact only 17%

    How Americans Identify 2013
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    #329

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:24 AM
    Where do you get the authority to make that claim
    You regularly paint people who are liberal as idiots.
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    #330

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You regularly paint people who are liberal as idiots.
    If the shoe fits.

    Many of them are... most of the rest are con-artists taking advantage of the others.
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    #331

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I can't imagine living in a country where I hate half the population. Why don't you move to another country where you'd be happier? You seem to really dislike most americans who aren't like you.
    It's not half and half, and in light of your posts today it's ironic you would call him a hater.
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    #332

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    You regularly paint people who are liberal as idiots.
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy
    If the shoe fits.

    Many of them are...most of the rest are con-artists taking advantage of the others.
    Well there you go.Thanks for proving my point.
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    #333

    Oct 10, 2013, 11:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well there you go.Thanks for proving my point.
    The point you don't know what you are talking about?
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    #334

    Oct 10, 2013, 12:04 PM
    On the subject at hand...

    The ObamaCare Website – The Biggest Tech Gaggle Ever?

    Despite the quiet here on this subject thus far at SiliconANGLE we have been keeping our eyes on what is possibly the biggest tech topic happening in the news right now. The issue at hand is the launch of ObamaCare online. It’s a hot topic that is philosophically dividing the country right now along political lines, along socio-economic lines, along just about every line there is to be divided over, many Thanksgivings could get cancelled over this (there’s also this big government shutdown) – it’s that contentious. Regardless of the variety of places to hear whatever facts and justification align with how you feel about the program, it is undeniable that this launch has been an incredible technical failure. Straight up – an absolute failure.

    404, Not Available- Could it Get Worse?

    Everywhere you look there are reports of issues across the board in just its first 8 days. Reports of the site just not being available. Reports of people unable to even create accounts. Those are just the first steps. Many people have reported being unable to sign up at all, or getting caught up in loops of reset passwords and lost accounts. If you’re lucky, once those things are clear, you can shop and select a health plan. It’s not just reports, I saw this myself when I personally tried on the third day to see what my costs would be, my browser was in la-la land stuck waiting with an hourglass for 5 hours just to get in to generate my profile. And then I got kicked off. I haven’t been back.
    But hey, 5 people in Iowa managed to buy coverage.
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    #335

    Oct 10, 2013, 01:32 PM
    It was the emperor's design to distract everyone from the disastrous launch of Obamcare with his manufactured twin crisis of shutdown and debt crisis.
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    Oct 11, 2013, 05:42 AM
    Hello again, tom:
    it was the emperor's design to distract everyone from the disastrous launch of Obamcare with his manufactured twin crisis of shutdown and debt crisis.
    Too bad it didn't work. The Republican debacle took center stage.

    Excon
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    #337

    Oct 11, 2013, 11:32 AM
    Not even in Pittsburgh PA is Obamacare wanted. And that area is heavily Democrat.

    Sebelius Embarrassed at ObamaCare Signup Event - Fox Nation

    Heinz field seats 60,000 but only 100 showed up.
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    #338

    Oct 16, 2013, 07:57 AM
    The emperor's home town Chicago Tribune lowered the boom...

    If you’ve tried to sign up online for health coverage under the problem-plagued Obamacare exchange, our sympathies. Many people have tried to create accounts and shop for insurance under the new law. Few have succeeded. Those that have enrolled have found that the system is prone to mistakes. Some applications have been sent to the wrong insurance company…

    • Illinois officials boasted that insurance premiums here would be lower than expected. But the Tribune reported Sunday that 21 of the 22 lowest-priced plans offered for Cook County residents have whopping annual deductibles of more than ,000 for an individual and ,000 for family coverage. That’s much more than many families can afford to pay.

    • The Obama administration delayed issuing major rules to set up the exchanges until after the 2012 presidential election and refused to push back the Oct. 1 launch date, lest Republicans take political advantage, The New York Times reported on Sunday.

    • Sloppy design of the architecture of the computer system, not simply an overload of users, created the problems that are blocking people from applying online for coverage, The Wall Street Journal reported last week.

    These are not glitches,” an insurance executive who has participated in many conference calls on the federal exchange told the Times. “The extent of the problems is pretty enormous. At the end of our calls, people say, ‘It’s awful, just awful.’ ”
    They also addressed the broken promises...

    There are more problems. People who have individual insurance coverage are finding that Obama’s oft-repeated promise — “if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan” — is just not true. They are being told by insurers that their existing plans expire on Dec. 31 and they must choose new coverage. They’re learning that insurers managed to offer lower-cost plans by narrowing the networks of hospitals and doctors that are available or by upping the out-of-pocket expenses. Unless people are careful in selecting coverage, they may be surprised to find they have to pay much more for out-of-network care to go to their doctors or get treated at the best hospitals.
    But that's the progressive way, instead of lifting others up they drag others down to make things 'fair.' Who gives a damn about fair if you make it more expensive for everyone else while narrowing their choices and lessening the quality of care?

    And yet we have MSNBC news guy asking GOP Rep Marsha Blackburn, “Do you hate ObamaCare more than you love your country?” She missed the obvious retort about loving Obamacare more than you love your country but perhaps she was just being civil, unlike the haters on the left.

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    #339

    Oct 16, 2013, 08:00 AM
    The haters of the left post here every day, so it's nice to see a rebuttal. :D
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    #340

    Oct 16, 2013, 08:07 AM
    You have had your fight, a noble, principled one, But you lose this round that's obvious. Have heart, as I know you guys will pick another fight down the road.

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