[smoothy]

Hello again, Steve:
You right wingers are the only people I know who can take a persons WORD that the IRS is guilty of wrongdoing, LINK it to the president, and then call that person a LIAR.

Makes NO sense to me.

excon

The President is the man in charge... that makes him the man responsible... you guys on the left kept whining Bush... Bush Bush... or Regan... Regan Regan... well according to YOUR rules... NOW its Obama.. Obama... Obama. Deal with it YOUR guy is in charge and its all HIS responsibility.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
You right wingers are the only people I know who can take a persons WORD that the IRS is guilty of wrongdoing, LINK it to the president,

You keep saying that but I don't recall having ever linked it to Obama. Stick to reality.

and then call that person a LIAR.

Makes NO sense to me.

I don't know how it doesn't make sense to you, here are the lies again:

Lerner said the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati and was not motivated by political bias.

After her talk, she told The AP that no high level IRS officials knew about the practice.

We knew these were lies early on, and then came the testimony of one IRS lawyer Carter Hull who confirmed they were taking orders from Washington, not Cincinnati, and pointed the finger at IRS chief counsel William Wilkins, who is “one of the only two Obama political appointees in the IRS.”

So you still clinging to the already discredited lie it was just schmucks in Cincinnati and no high level officials knew about it? You're losing this argument, ex and your credibility with it.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I don't know why you always want me to spell things out... What made NO sense, and still doesn't, is that you BELIEVE her when she says the IRS did something bad, and you don't the rest of the time...

excon

[talaniman]

The President is the man in charge.....that makes him the man responsible.....you guys on the left kept whining Bush...Bush Bush...or Regan ...Regan Regan....well according to YOUR rules....NOW its Obama..Obama...Obama. deal with it YOUR guy is in charge and its all HIS responsibility.

Good thing we had Clinton between the two Bush's or we really would have been in trouble. Now your mad because Obama can't clean up the second Bush's mess fast enough because you guys hid the mop and the bucket, and holler its all his fault.

And steadily making more messes, and too cheap to buy a new mop. Stop hollering victim, and grab a mop. Boy, you guys are lazier than poor people!

[smoothy]

Good thing we had Clinton between the two Bush's or we really would have been in trouble. Now your mad because Obama can't clean up the second Bush's mess fast enough because you guys hid the mop and the bucket, and holler its all his fault.

And steadily making more messes, and too cheap to buy a new mop. Stop hollering victim, and grab a mop. Boy, you guys are lazier than poor people!!

Get over it... MORE people had jobs the day Bush left office than have jobs right now... or at any point since he first got elected.

BUSH did a far better job than Owebama has on everything.

Obama hasn't done much of anything right... he's screwed up almost everythiing he has touched... and his only real accomplishment he has Bush to thank for making possible... because the programs BUSH put into place Obama bellyached and whined about as a Senator... were what made it possible in the first place.

Obama acts like a immature little punk that isn't getting his way... and is throwing a perpetual temper tantrum.

[talaniman]

I can tell from the other side of the computer you ain't saying that with a straight face. If you weren't so far right and had some skills those rocks would reach.

Quite hollering and grab a mop. No more excuses.

[smoothy]

I can tell from the other side of the computer you ain't saying that with a straight face. If you weren't so far right and had some skills those rocks would reach.

Quite hollering and grab a mop. No more excuses.

Obama has been screwing things up for 4 years and 8 months... nothing is better now than it was the day he took office...

And the Millions of unemployed and the underemployed back me up on that. Because they had jobs when Bush was in office.

[speechlesstx]

Apparently Obama's "phony scandals" aren't phony to Americans.

Benghazi. Snooping on reporters. The IRS and NSA. The White House dismisses them as phony and fake scandals. Americans do not.

A Fox News national poll released Thursday finds that 78 percent of voters think the questions over the administration’s handling of the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi should be taken seriously. Just 17 percent call it a phony scandal.

The attack, on the anniversary of September 11, killed four Americans -- including the U.S. ambassador.

Meanwhile, 69 percent of voters say the National Security Agency’s electronic surveillance of everyday Americans is serious, while 26 percent call that a fake scandal.

By a margin of 59-31 percent, voters are also more likely to view the seizure of reporters’ phone records by the Justice Department as serious rather than phony.

And while the White House sees a Congressional investigation of the IRS targeting of conservative groups as a “distraction,” 59 percent of voters take it seriously. Some 33 percent agree with the administration that it’s fake.

In each of the four situations, voters across the partisan spectrum -- Republicans, independents and Democrats -- are more likely to say the situation should be taken seriously.

Democrats are most inclined to agree with the White House on the IRS scandal: 49 percent say it’s serious, while 42 percent call it a phony scandal.

Fully 70 percent of Democrats think the administration’s handling of Benghazi is a serious matter.

Overall, a 62-percent majority of voters believes the White House is trying to cover-up what happened in Benghazi, while 27 percent say the administration is being open and transparent. These views are mostly unchanged from May.

Nearly 9 in 10 Republicans (88 percent), two-thirds of independents (67 percent) and a third of Democrats (34 percent) think the administration is hiding something on Benghazi.

Read more: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters | Fox News

That's across the board, well beyond the margin of error - American voters aren't buying the "phony" narrative. We deserve answers!

[Wondergirl]

That's across the board, well beyond the margin of error - American voters aren't buying the "phony" narrative. We deserve answers!

All of 1,007 registered voters with a margin of sampling error of ± 3 percentage points.

[speechlesstx]

All of 1,007 registered voters with a margin of sampling error of ± 3 percentage points.

Yes I checked that ma'am. It's so beyond the margin of error it's a slam dunk that America is taking it seriously and not buying the "phony" meme.

78-13 on Benghazi including 70% of Dems
69-26 on NSA snooping
59-31 on seizing reporters phone records
59-33 on the IRS scandal with a near majority of Dems, 49-42
62-27 think the Admin is covering up Benghazi

Those are some serious numbers, all well beyond the margin of error.

[Wondergirl]

Yes I checked that ma'am. It's so beyond the margin of error it's a slam dunk that America is taking it seriously and not buying the "phony" meme.

78-13 on Benghazi including 70% of Dems
69-26 on NSA snooping
59-31 on seizing reporters phone records
59-33 on the IRS scandal with a near majority of Dems, 49-42
62-27 think the Admin is covering up Benghazi

Those are some serious numbers, all well beyond the margin of error.

And what were the questions asked? And how were they phrased?

[speechlesstx]

And what were the questions asked? and how were they phrased?

Follow the link.

[Wondergirl]

Follow the link.

They had said some of them won't be released until after 6 p.m. It's later than that now, so will look.

[speechlesstx]

They had said some of them won't be released until after 6 p.m. It's later than that now, so will look.

The survey was there when I posted.

[tomder55]

Dr Ben Carson disclosed this week that he was recently the subject of an IRS audit. Prior to making an address critical of the emperor's policies while the emperor was in attendance ,the IRS never found the need to audit his returns . But somehow his name was picked out of the hat almost immediately after his address at the 61st Annual National Prayer Breakfast.. Carson said;
“I guess it could be a coincidence, but I never had been audited before and never really had any encounters with the IRS,” ..... “But it certainly would make one suspicious because we know now the IRS has been used for political purposes and therefore actions like this come under suspicion.”
Yeah I'm sure it's just one of those coincidences.

[paraclete]

Don't you know that the state will use whatever tools it has at its disposal to stifle dissent?
What better way of shutting someone up than having them bogged down in a tax audit, or for that matter erecting barriers where there were no barriers before. Has it dawned upon you yet that you are in a police state

[tomder55]

And what better way of controlling everyone by linking their heath care information with an agency like the IRS !

[paraclete]

I don't understand your concern we have had these integrated links for years and it hasn't undermined our democracy, I carry a Medicarecard which entitles me to healthcare and this is linked to my tax file number and required details are downloaded into my electronic tax return as are the details of my Social Security income and Social Security Number, Bank Interest, share dividends, Health insurance payments. The ATO has my bank detail and refunds are automatically deposited. I'm waiting for the time when I don't have to lodge a tax return because the level of complexity is such it would take a long time to assemble the information for a tax return if this wasn't available

[tomder55]

Have you read the accounts on this OP ? My concern should be self evident .

[paraclete]

have you read the accounts on this OP ? My concern should be self evident .

You live in a society that is full of fear, thus your present dilemna. Our society operates on a different dynamic. Trust didn't come easy, but we do know you have nothing to fear but fear itself.