[tomder55]

If you have to take hostages to make your point, you are no better than terrorists.

Again with the inflamatory language. I remember the mock outrage over alleged cross hairs on Sarah Palin campaign literature. Now the emperor uses language like "holding a gun to his head. "
But talk about "taking hostages " . When the emperor designs his shut down or sequester decisions to make the maximum visual effect to hurt the people then who is really taking hostages ? Who's taking hostages when he keeps Camp David open for his personal use but prevents troops overseas from watching the baseball playoffs or the NFL games ? He's a petty spiteful prick who is certainly fulfilling the Clint Eastwood description of an empty chair.

[tomder55]

[smoothy]

Harry Reid and OWEbama are the hostage takers... acting like misbehaving little children throwing a tantrum when mommy or daddy didn't get them the toy they were demanding.

[talaniman]

How many times do you have to be told NO repeal, or delay of the ACA until you get it? DUHHH!!

That's my point, that was the stated goal of the shut down, and it FAILED! Now you scramble for another reason to keep it shutdown. Piece meal legislation has FAILED! Now it's a grand bargain.

For it not to FAIL, let the hostages GO!!

[smoothy]

How many times do you have to be told NO repeal, or delay of the ACA until you get it? DUHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's my point, that was the stated goal of the shut down, and it FAILED! Now you scramble for another reason to keep it shutdown. Piece meal legislation has FAILED!! Now its a grand bargain.

For it not to FAIL, let the hostages GO!!!!!!!!!!

What part of you , Reid or Obama don't HAVE THE RIGHT to make that demand can't you lefties grasp.

Obama isn't a freakin god... NOBODY is beholden to him... particularly any Republicans... we know the average Democrat has a picture of him in their little temple they worship, and to those that have one even polish their knob to... but nobody else does.

THe Democrats do NOT control the House... Get over it... YOU lost that first midterm election BECAUSE of how the mentally deficient Democrats under Pelosi played that game...

The American Public don't WANT Obamacare... and not even the Democrats want it... look at how they all exempted themselves and their Union Buddies from having to have it.

[tomder55]

Again with the dictates .At the end of the day ,the emperor's no-negotiations stance is just another red line he'll have to move. Then instead of looking Presidential ,he will be reduced to being forced to make concessions after bouts of petulant tantrums . He had the opportunity to seize the high ground and again is a failure.
Not only that but he's dragging his party with him. Part of his fragile majority in the Senate and House is a number of seats in States and districts that Romney won. That means they are soft held seats ripe for picking next year . The Repubics have on record all these mini-votes where these Dems voted against Vets care , cancer research for kids ,etc. Even better ,he has that punch drunk Reid as the public face of it.

[smoothy]

Most 3 year olds behave with more maturity than Harry Reid or Obama have shown.

[speechlesstx]

Seems to me the whole Democrat regime are a bunch of petulant pricks. This is all apparently a game to them...

Said a senior administration official: “We are winning…It doesn’t really matter to us” how long the shutdown lasts “because what matters is the end result.”

They wanted a shutdown, they're playing all manner of pathetic, childish shutdown theater and now the WH admits it's a game and all that matters is them winning.

Per speaker bonehead, “This isn’t some damn game!”

[talaniman]

A better turnout of minorities, women, old, and young, as well as the poor will overcome your ID, and gerrymandering tricks and traps, and the right wing loony bunch will FAIL, and sanity and reason will be restored to governance.

Your meds are affordable so take them and swallow. Need a glass of water? I recommend a pitcher. You must be crazy thinking half of one third of the government dictates to the country.

GOP Donors Revolt Against Republican-Led Government Shutdown - The Daily Beast

It is unlikely that the gilded power brokers in the Republican Party are likely to join their local county political club any time soon, but as the stock market wobbles amid the government shutdown and the continued demand for an Obamacare delay, a number of GOP donors are wondering if it is time for a little outside counter-pressure to sap the Tea Party of some of its energy. To be clear, none are considering joining the Democrats, and they find plenty of fault with President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The deficit, taxes, and regulation remain top concerns. But several top GOP donors say figuring out a way to “break the fever”—as Obama once put it—or at least keep their fellow party members from damaging the economy any further has become Topic A in their social set.

About time!

[smoothy]

Get that out of your daily approved propaganda booklet from the Messiah?

[talaniman]

No just know far right lunacy when I see it. Or hear it.

[smoothy]

No just know far right lunacy when I see it. Or hear it.

Bet you don't... you can't recognise far left lunacy when you see it... or hear it.

More of the Maniac Dicator Obama ordering Park Rangers to make life as hard on citizens as possible.

Someone impeach that waste of human flesh infesting the White House already.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ne.../posts?page=25

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-of-the-game/

Contrary the Messiahs delusional beliefs everything is HIS... they aren't... the parks belong to the people... not that Bozo in the White House. And him pulling these cheap and petty stunts shows what a petulant tiny insignificant little man he really is...

[tomder55]

GOP Donors Revolt Against Republican-Led Government Shutdown - The Daily Beast


Quote:
It is unlikely that the gilded power brokers in the Republican Party are likely to join their local county political club any time soon, but as the stock market wobbles amid the government shutdown and the continued demand for an Obamacare delay, a number of GOP donors are wondering if it is time for a little outside counter-pressure to sap the Tea Party of some of its energy. To be clear, none are considering joining the Democrats, and they find plenty of fault with President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The deficit, taxes, and regulation remain top concerns. But several top GOP donors say figuring out a way to “break the fever”—as Obama once put it—or at least keep their fellow party members from damaging the economy any further has become Topic A in their social set.

About time!

Lol cronies of the world unite. Feed that beast ! Yeah I'm sure those corporate interests are served by some of the Republic statists .

[tomder55]

”what right do they have to pick and choose what part of government is going to be funded ? " Harry Reid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0lFyFJeZSY

Ummmm Harry ,try reading the Constitution. But I get it . To the Dems ,the Constitution is just a speed bump that has to be maneuvered around on the way toward their statist utopia.

[speechlesstx]

This coming from the side that picks and chooses how to inflict the most pain in their shutdown games, closing open air memorials to vets, hating on children, closing parks that never have a park service presence anyway and now, threatening military chaplains with arrest even if they offer their services on a voluntary basis.

Priests threatened with arrest if they minister to military during shutdown | The Daily Caller

Why do Dems hate children, soldiers, vets, God, the constitution, etc so much?

[tomder55]

How many times do you have to be told NO repeal, or delay of the ACA until you get it? DUHHH!!

That's my point, that was the stated goal of the shut down, and it FAILED! Now you scramble for another reason to keep it shutdown. Piece meal legislation has FAILED! Now it's a grand bargain.

For it not to FAIL, let the hostages GO!!

For Democrats, the budget is all or nothing. Republican bills to fund this or that individual program have to be rejected out of hand as an affront to the apparent constitutional inviolability of the "continuing resolution."

In fact, government by "continuing resolution" is a sleazy racket: The legislative branch is supposed to legislate. Instead, they're presented with a yea-or-nay vote on a single all-or-nothing multi-trillion-dollar band-aid stitched together behind closed doors to hold the federal leviathan together while it belches its way through to the next budget cycle.
As professor Angelo Codevilla of Boston University put it, "This turns democracy into a choice between tyranny and anarchy." It's certainly a perversion of responsible government: Congress has less say over specific federal expenditures than the citizens of my New Hampshire backwater do at town meeting over the budget for a new fence at the town dump.

Pace Sen. Reid, Republican proposals to allocate spending through targeted, mere multi-billion-dollar appropriations is not only not "irresponsible" but, in fact, a vast improvement over the "continuing resolution": To modify Lord Acton, power corrupts, but continuing power corrupts continually

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An Overwhelming Majority Of The Federal Government Can't Be Shut Down - Investors.com

[tomder55]

This coming from the side that picks and chooses how to inflict the most pain in their shutdown games, closing open air memorials to vets, hating on children, closing parks that never have a park service presence anyway and now, threatening military chaplains with arrest even if they offer their services on a voluntary basis.

Priests threatened with arrest if they minister to military during shutdown | The Daily Caller

Why do Dems hate children, soldiers, vets, God, the constitution, etc so much?

One would not be altogether surprised to find the feds stringing yellow police tape along the Rio Grande, the 49th Parallel and the Atlantic and Pacific coasts, if only to keep Americans in rather than anybody else out. Still, I would like to have been privy to the high-level discussions at which the government took the decision to install its Barrycades on open parkland.

For anyone with a modicum of self-respect, it's difficult to imagine how even the twerpiest of twerp bureaucrats would consent to stand at a crowd barrier and tell a group of elderly soldiers who've flown in from across the country that they're forbidden to walk across a piece of grass and pay their respects.

Yet, if any National Parks Service employee retained enough sense of his own humanity to balk at these instructions or other spiteful, petty closures of semi-wilderness fishing holes and the like, we've yet to hear about it.

The World War II Memorial exists thanks to some $200 million in private donations — plus $15 million or so from Washington: in other words, the feds paid for the grass. But the thug usurpers of the bureaucracy want to send a message: In today's America, everything is the gift of the government, and exists only at the government's pleasure, whether it's your health insurance, your religious liberty or the monument to your fallen comrades.
The Barrycades are such a perfect embodiment of what James Piereson calls "punitive liberalism" they should be tied round Obama's neck forever, in the way that "ketchup is a vegetable" got hung around Reagan-era Republicans. Alas, the court eunuchs of the Obama media cannot rouse themselves even on behalf of the nation's elderly warriors

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An Overwhelming Majority Of The Federal Government Can't Be Shut Down - Investors.com

[talaniman]

Bonehead and his TParty cohorts should have thought of that when they decided to shut the government down. If they had, they would have avoided this mess. They still can with a clean CR to cover 60 days but they won't.

The TParty won't let them, though the list grows for support of such a vote among house republicans. Nice to see Bachmann so happy, even if REAL workers are NOT.

[tomder55]

And the Dems should've thought of 'no changes to Obamacare ' before the executive waivers ,delays they approve of ,and SCOTUS fundamentally changing the words of the law after it was DEEMED the law of the land .Last I heard ,the "law of the land" had a provision for "Income Verification" for subsidies .Guess that's another part of the law that is OK to ignore .

[speechlesstx]

The house passed 2 more bills to fund the government while negotiations continue. Dems don't want to negotiate, don't care if the government works or not, don't care if children get cancer treatment, don't wants vets honoring those who sacrificed their lives, don't care if vendors can open at parks that don't have Park Service staff, don't care about enforcing obamacare rules and call Republicans terrorists for doing their job. Your idea of negotiating is shut up and cave to our demands. Dems are mean, petulant pricks that are only interested in winning, not the good of the country.